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Old 12-10-2014, 02:54 PM   #6046
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12 mm hexes front and rear b44 rims will work?
Deleted post, miss read your reply as a question.


I got to drive mine last night. Nice. It's handle the same, just a little easier to drive. I still have mine in saddle pack configuration. Look forward to build up the shorty chassis next and doing some back to back testing.
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Randy0025, Xray is probably look at your posts now and saying this guy is trying to tell us how to run our business, yet he canít even post quoteíe correctly (twice).
Itís no point posting constructive criticism here. Send it to xray@rcamerica.com (your USA importer), they may have some say in procedures as their name is printed on the back of the instructions too.


No, youíre not being rude. You are allowed your opinion. I donít take offence to your views. It just looks like you guys think Xray is here just for your own needs and wants. Some want Xray to hold off distributing the kits, just because there has been a hold up on the production of the centre diffs. Now, thatís unrealistic and being spiteful. Xray needs an income, so if the kits are ready, send them. Money comes in, Xray keeps operating. Thatís how businesses tend to operate. Build up a stock pile of optional parts (which may or may not be purchased and cost money) ready for a release of a new kit really isnít the best business model. Some things are out of Xrayís control. Maybe something has been manufacture incorrectly and it has to be done all over again. Didnít JQís first batch of main gears get manufacture from an older cad design file? Mistakes happen. JQ was open and upfront about it. I donít expect Xray to put out a day memo telling us what has and didnít happen in the factory today.



ĎI want a diff and I want it nowí makes me think that this person must still suck their thumb.


I donít think their will be one person in this whole forum that can stand up and say that they have never failed to delivery any item or services on time. Whether itís RC, work or personally related? Yet you want Xray to be perfect.


Honest, I canít help it if peopleís lights are on but there's no one home. Just look a XB8 when it was released, the brass weights took some time to become available and other options. How hard is it to make brass weights? I was the smart one. I waited for the brass weights to be available. Then I purchased the XB8 kit because that what makes those brass weight go so fast around the track (yes, sarcasm).


We all want to try the centre diff.


This is how Xray releases and promotes their products. We have to except it. I donít understand why Xray uses this method. The only reason I can think of is it saves printing multiple versions of manuals. Xray in not doing anything differently compared to what has been done in the past, based on previous releases. Xray never said the car was being released with the centre diff included. I assume some of you may have pre ordered the car thinking it was, just because other cars on the market have them included in kits. So, you assumed wrong. Thatís not Xray problem. Thatís like me buying the latest Iphone assuming the NFC is working. Its there, just not activated. If Xray decided to include the diff and removed the shorty parts, people still would have complained. Xray canít win. Hold on!!! Include the centre diff and the shorty in the kit and increase the price. Now itís too expensive.



Some of you need to do what best suits you. Pick another brand that offers you your 'special' centre diff and stop voicing your disapproval of the availability of it. Itís not helping anyone here go faster.
Boz I am not saying to wait to release the kit til the optional parts are ready, In fact Im glad they got it out as fast as they did. what I am saying is for xray to get there crap together. They knew that the center diff and shorty were the MAIN SELLING PARTS. therefor maybe they should have been working on that from the get go. As of right now xray has no release date even planned, but yet there are team drivers out there running center diffs for the last month and a half. I myself pre-ordered the kit as soon as they had it avil because of the fact that it was going to have a shorty and center diff. like I said before its the best kit out and I am not bashing the design but the way they marketed the kit and the fact that xray cant even give us a ETA on the center diffs. That tells me that we are a couple months out at the very minimal. I pray that I am wrong and if I am I will gladly say thank you/sorry to xray. I wont say anymore about the issue, unless its 3 months from now and yet still there are no center diffs
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Boz I am not saying to wait to release the kit til the optional parts are ready, In fact Im glad they got it out as fast as they did. what I am saying is for xray to get there crap together. They knew that the center diff and shorty were the MAIN SELLING PARTS. therefor maybe they should have been working on that from the get go. As of right now xray has no release date even planned, but yet there are team drivers out there running center diffs for the last month and a half. I myself pre-ordered the kit as soon as they had it avil because of the fact that it was going to have a shorty and center diff. like I said before its the best kit out and I am not bashing the design but the way they marketed the kit and the fact that xray cant even give us a ETA on the center diffs. That tells me that we are a couple months out at the very minimal. I pray that I am wrong and if I am I will gladly say thank you/sorry to xray. I wont say anymore about the issue, unless its 3 months from now and yet still there are no center diffs
Don't you know not to argue with an Xray fanboi?! haha, I always love lurking in the xray threads, there is always some attack dog waiting to pounce.
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Old 12-10-2014, 04:59 PM   #6049
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Take this how you want, but it is strange that a majority of the bitching posts are US members. You must think you are the only ones that drive on a dirt/clay surface. lol.


Randy, most of my remarks in my reply weren't directed at you, it was also based on other members replies and views.
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I have the v2 bulkhead up front but I don't remember ever changing the rear bulkhead.

No problem with the gears but I shimmed the diff over .3mm to eliminate the slop in the bulkhead to diff fitment. I believe that the newest bulkheads are molded to remove this slop.
yes, shimming helps.

I think the V2 front bulkhead has been updated at some point with a new cover (see picture) the inner bearing doesn't seem to have any play in it now either. If you have an earlier bulkhead the bearing have a lot of play/movement in them. I think this is why the gear can strip. The newer rear bulkheads have an "R" stamped on them.

I had a two NIP front V2 bulkheads the other week. Both with different front cover. The newer design cover had less play and the bearing had to be pushed into place. The older one, the bearing just fell in and out.
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So finally got to drove mine with the stock clay setup and it was horrible.....pushing in the corners any throttle coming out and it would wash out. The shocks were very smooth and consistent with the Avid pistons. I really had to dumb the throttle down with the 8.5 and at least run no timing to get it to keep its composure on such a small track. Thought i might try the setup everyone is running then i seen the pricing for the setup change and now I'm going to try to work with what i got. Now to work on setup and make it handle with out the fear of washing out every second. Any advice on where i should start gentleman?
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Up in the air about ordering a 14 or the new 15. I like the price better on the 14 as it's come down considerably. But are the arms and the usual breakable parts the same between the 14 and 15?
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So finally got to drove mine with the stock clay setup and it was horrible.....pushing in the corners any throttle coming out and it would wash out. The shocks were very smooth and consistent with the Avid pistons. I really had to dumb the throttle down with the 8.5 and at least run no timing to get it to keep its composure on such a small track. Thought i might try the setup everyone is running then i seen the pricing for the setup change and now I'm going to try to work with what i got. Now to work on setup and make it handle with out the fear of washing out every second. Any advice on where i should start gentleman?
you running the correct tires for the track?

lay the rear shocks in on the top, out on the bottom. adjust camber links front and rear and loosen the clutch. no need to reduce throttle on an 8.5.
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yes, shimming helps.

I think the V2 front bulkhead has been updated at some point with a new cover (see picture) the inner bearing doesn't seem to have any play in it now either. If you have an earlier bulkhead the bearing have a lot of play/movement in them. I think this is why the gear can strip. The newer rear bulkheads have an "R" stamped on them.

I had a two NIP front V2 bulkheads the other week. Both with different front cover. The newer design cover had less play and the bearing had to be pushed into place. The older one, the bearing just fell in and out.
Maybe they made a running change the bearing clearance and just boasted about it on the '15?

Either way, I think the shims are part of what keep the gears alive in the older bulkheads and I'm leaving them in.
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So have anyone found shims that fit the 15 diff? I cant seem to find any on xrays site?
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Up in the air about ordering a 14 or the new 15. I like the price better on the 14 as it's come down considerably. But are the arms and the usual breakable parts the same between the 14 and 15?

Yes.. Most parts interchange.
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So finally got to drove mine with the stock clay setup and it was horrible.....pushing in the corners any throttle coming out and it would wash out. The shocks were very smooth and consistent with the Avid pistons. I really had to dumb the throttle down with the 8.5 and at least run no timing to get it to keep its composure on such a small track. Thought i might try the setup everyone is running then i seen the pricing for the setup change and now I'm going to try to work with what i got. Now to work on setup and make it handle with out the fear of washing out every second. Any advice on where i should start gentleman?

Was wondering what you mean about the pricing for the setup change? Can't you just ask a team driver on Facebook for there stock clay setup and work from there. I didn't know anywhere that charged you for a setup change?

Either way I hope you get it figured out. I've heard a couple people say the same thing with there 2015 and how there 2014 was so much better. I am hoping that has to do with having more time spent On setting up the 2014 and being the 2015 is new
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Also just got a email from xray saying the center diff are being package this weekend and going to be for sell next week after. Such great news as I was one of those that though it was farther along since in the first emails there was no estimated release date.
Now I just hope they don't take long to get to America....
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