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Old 03-10-2013, 06:14 AM   #1786
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Anybody measure the rear toe on their car with the kit setup, meaning the eccentric bushings in the center position? The instructions indicate it should be 3 deg. I stood my car on end and used a camber gage to measure it and it came out 1.5 deg on each side. I had to change the RR to .5 out just to get 2 deg. Can someone check their's and give some feedback?
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Mine was 3 deg with centre/centre bushings.
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:12 AM   #1788
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1.5 on each side is 3deg in total,unless I'm not understanding what your saying,putting 2deg on each side will be 4deg in total
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:28 AM   #1789
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3 deg per side would be a TON of rear toe!
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:45 AM   #1790
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Anybody measure the rear toe on their car with the kit setup, meaning the eccentric bushings in the center position? The instructions indicate it should be 3 deg. I stood my car on end and used a camber gage to measure it and it came out 1.5 deg on each side. I had to change the RR to .5 out just to get 2 deg. Can someone check their's and give some feedback?
It is 3deg total not on each side.
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:17 AM   #1791
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A side note regarding the setup sheet in PDF format produced by the Xray data base: Ackermann position is switched between the html page and the pdf file, same for caster, and wishbones position (FF, FR, RF & RR blocks) are all over the place except when at center but not even sure.

Xray is aware of these errors produced by the system.

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Old 03-10-2013, 11:15 AM   #1792
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Has anyone tried using the 1/10th sedan hudy setup station for their xb4? I think with some spacers it would work quiet well.
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:04 PM   #1793
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What a nice kit! The build was excellent as was today's first race. The car is very easy to drive fast consistently.
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Anybody measure the rear toe on their car with the kit setup, meaning the eccentric bushings in the center position? The instructions indicate it should be 3 deg. I stood my car on end and used a camber gage to measure it and it came out 1.5 deg on each side. I had to change the RR to .5 out just to get 2 deg. Can someone check their's and give some feedback?
Seems accurate on a Hudy setup. Your system of measurement may have been lacking some accuracy. Good you thought about it though, a used car with issues can definitely be off and it shows clearly on a setup system.
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:02 PM   #1795
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Ran mine in our tracks outdoor season opener . Their was only 4 entry (²kyosho/¹ 44.2 /& my X-ray) after 3 6 min heats and 8min main all cars broke at some point EXCEPT the XRAY!! And this was my first ever off road 4wd buggy race .( Been running tc for 10+yrs tho) love the car . But now I also want a 1/8 scale whens the new one coming out ?
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Three degree's of rear toe is correct, measured on each side.
Yes that's 6*
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:41 PM   #1797
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Three degree's of rear toe is correct, measured on each side.
Yes that's 6*
Thanks, that's what the clay setup shows, 3 deg per side! See attached picture. Maybe my measurement system is flawed. But standing the car on end and measuring the angle of the rear wheels should be close. I'll find a setup system and check it there.
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Anyone using other wings besides the stock? If so, which ones?
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Anyone using other wings besides the stock? If so, which ones?
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So it seems the eccentric bushings are accurate. I hadn't checked rear toe since I built it maybe 15 runs ago. One side was off by more than one degree. I do a lot of triple checking and there it is, hmm, the left side was off but the right side was "right on". So I loosened all the suspension holder screws of both sides, tweaked the arms back and forth a bit to loosen everything up the same-ish, and brushed a little loose dirts from around the screw holes. Then holding both arms with a slight forward pressure so both would be in the same relative position I tightened the suspension holder screws.
Rechecked and both sides were right on at 3.0. So I changed the RR bushings to .5 out and both sides were again right on at 3.5
Clear example of even the rear toe being off due to wild tumbles tweaking things.
My chassis has been bent in the back for a long time.
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