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Old 03-08-2013, 07:17 AM   #1771
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Talked with a few people from JC over the weekend. According to them it's "soon"
sounds good im waiting for it to come out before i have my painter do my scheme on it im just running a plain white one now. also have you seen any undertrays that fit these?
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:23 AM   #1772
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sounds good im waiting for it to come out before i have my painter do my scheme on it im just running a plain white one now. also have you seen any undertrays that fit these?
Haven't seen any undertrays, but have been toying with the idea of making some.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:44 AM   #1773
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if you do i would deffently be in on a couple it makes it nice to not have your bolts caked with dirt
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how much rear droop are you running? How many limiters inside the shocks?
focus on oils first. heavier to slow down the springs reaction or lighter to allow the spring to work more. and try different springs. BUT Depending on the way the bumps are you might just leave it alone. don't dial yourself out of 90% of the track to be dialed for 10%.
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:22 AM   #1775
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looks good, your drivers side turnbucles are backwards though....
That was on purpose. I build all of my cars so that when you turn the turnbuckle forward it lengthens it and back if shortens it.
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That was on purpose. I build all of my cars so that when you turn the turnbuckle forward it lengthens it and back if shortens it.
+1... I always install mine in the same direction as well. I always want the turnbuckle to do the same thing on both sides of car when I am looking at it from either end.
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Pretty good read from Hudy about the xb4.

http://www.thebigrc.com/?p=4039
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:03 AM   #1778
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how much rear droop are you running? How many limiters inside the shocks?
i have no measured it but have just the one limiter on the inside
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focus on oils first. heavier to slow down the springs reaction or lighter to allow the springth to work more. and try different springs. BUT Depending on the way the bumps are you might just leave it alone. don't dial yourself out of 90% of the track to be dialed for 10%.
it doesnt seem to be horrible in that straight but sometimes i have to correct to not wreck because it upsets it. im running stock springs right now 21 ride height 40wt and 35wt rear associated.
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i have no measured it but have just the one limiter on the inside
Put another limiter in the rear, lower ride height to 19mm and use 35wt ft 30r
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Rear only means, the rear gearbox shims ONLY. Frontside of the REAR gearbox, and rearside of the REAR gearbox. 4 bushings total.

Doing the frontside only increases toe, doing the rearside only decreases toe. Doing all four together INCREASES track with as a whole.
I'm using the factory terminology directly from the manual, it refers to them as FF FR RF RR . So in fact the term rear as I said applies to 3 of the 4 suspension holders. Using those terms clearly indicates which one where the eccentric bushings are changed.
I fully understand how the use of the bushings applies to changes in the car which is why I asked for an explanation. To that point the answer has still not been given. Toe change ? Track width change ? Rear only ?
It would help to use complete and correct terminology.
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I'm using the factory terminology directly from the manual, it refers to them as FF FR RF RR . So in fact the term rear as I said applies to 3 of the 4 suspension holders. Using those terms clearly indicates which one where the eccentric bushings are changed.
I fully understand how the use of the bushings applies to changes in the car which is why I asked for an explanation. To that point the answer has still not been given. Toe change ? Track width change ? Rear only ?
It would help to use complete and correct terminology.
The only person not getting what i'm saying, is you.

If you understand how the bushings work, you would understand that adding .5 to the outsides of both the front and rear of the rear gearbox would give you a greater track width. Putting the same .5 bushings to the inside would give you a narrower track width.


Simple enough?
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put .5 out in the rf and rr
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Put another limiter in the rear, lower ride height to 19mm and use 35wt ft 30r
i will give this a shot im going to run one of the local club races tomorrow that usally have a big turn out so hopefully ill go good. It is alot smoother track so ill try the current setup then go to this if needed.
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it doesnt seem to be horrible in that straight but sometimes i have to correct to not wreck because it upsets it. im running stock springs right now 21 ride height 40wt and 35wt rear associated.
the stock oils are closer to 37.5 and 27.5. the rear oil being so much heavier may be causing it to pack up too quick and then upset.

and ride height closer to 18 or 19 is probably going to help too.

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