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Old 02-23-2013, 02:58 AM   #1651
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I have to say that my car is getting very durable with my tower mod, aluminum shock towers and metal gears. Now instaed of tower breaking on a off camber landing its the rear upright. I have broken 3 in the last week. May try to boil them. Im not hitting anything its the landing itself that is breaking the upright. If I dont hit the jump perfectly square it breaks. Hope the boiling works.
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Black anodized shock towers are finally available.



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I have to say that my car is getting very durable with my tower mod, aluminum shock towers and metal gears. Now instaed of tower breaking on a off camber landing its the rear upright. I have broken 3 in the last week. May try to boil them. Im not hitting anything its the landing itself that is breaking the upright. If I dont hit the jump perfectly square it breaks. Hope the boiling works.
How the upright brokes?

Durango has the same issue, at least according to my friend. It helps to add a shim and nut to the other side of the camber link.
Doing that will load the part differently.

Haven't had a chance to test myself.
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I finished my shock setting using a initial shock oils in kits, but it makes some weird sounds likes air leaking. I can't explain exactly, I think there is some problems. Also, the shocks doesn't works well, usually pushing front or rear parts, they are bounded slowly but they are bounded a little quickly. And when I throw down from the 1~1.5 meters height, bottom chassis is crushed the floor.
What should I do?
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:31 AM   #1655
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Started building the kit, and its been a pleasure to build so far except for a couple heads striping on fasteners. On the front bulk head I had two 3x10 2mm bhcs strip out on me, one in the top of the diff case and one for the shock tower. Had to use a dremel to cut a slot in the top of the head and turn them out with a screwdriver, and it was tight to get to them with the dremel. Used some replacements and noticed the heads are deeper on them then the xray screws.

I bought new bits for this build, pre tapped everything and only tighten to snug. Never had a problem stripping allen key heads before. Anyone else have this issue?
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Started building the kit, and its been a pleasure to build so far except for a couple heads striping on fasteners. On the front bulk head I had two 3x10 2mm bhcs strip out on me, one in the top of the diff case and one for the shock tower. Had to use a dremel to cut a slot in the top of the head and turn them out with a screwdriver, and it was tight to get to them with the dremel. Used some replacements and noticed the heads are deeper on them then the xray screws.

I bought new bits for this build, pre tapped everything and only tighten to snug. Never had a problem stripping allen key heads before. Anyone else have this issue?
Xray seems to have gotten a bad batch of screws as this seems to be a common complain. I had to Dremel several screwsyself. Just replace them and you should have no worries
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I finished my shock setting using a initial shock oils in kits, but it makes some weird sounds likes air leaking. I can't explain exactly, I think there is some problems. Also, the shocks doesn't works well, usually pushing front or rear parts, they are bounded slowly but they are bounded a little quickly. And when I throw down from the 1~1.5 meters height, bottom chassis is crushed the floor.
What should I do?
No offense but is this you first car ? The symptoms you are describing are true foe every car. What you have to learn is the same thing we all go through. Start reading and wrenching. The XB4 shocks aren't the best but they are very good.

Ok enuf of me being a smarty pants. Apologies.
The Xray shocks have there issues like they do leak a bit. But your issues sound more like a simple bleeding process leaving some air in the shock. See youtube for some videos on the process.
As for the drop test it sounds again normal. The real test is how it runs on the track. The shock oils and pistons are part of the whole setup package and even on the same track people can have big personal differences, so you'll just need to go through the process.
ps the drop test is usually 6-12 inches....
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I bought new bits for this build, pre tapped everything and only tighten to snug. Never had a problem stripping allen key heads before. Anyone else have this issue?
What brand of tool ? many of the fancy aftermarket tools are JUNK. A poorly made tool will strip a head out in the blink of an eye.
Do yourself a favor and get MIP tools, I have some that are over 20 years old and still like new tips. You only need one, a 2mm will do 90% of the screws in this car.
Do not use the ball style !
Tapping is probably uneccasarry.
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What brand of tool ? many of the fancy aftermarket tools are JUNK. A poorly made tool will strip a head out in the blink of an eye.
Do yourself a favor and get MIP tools, I have some that are over 20 years old and still like new tips. You only need one, a 2mm will do 90% of the screws in this car.
Do not use the ball style !
Tapping is probably uneccasarry.
These ones...

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXAYPF&P=7

I've been using these AE ones with pretty good luck. Bought a new one for the xray but didn't seem to help, the tip looks fine and has no issues with other screws but the xray ones. So far only had to turn out two, hopefully that will be it. I will look into the MIP tips, are these the ones you are talking about...?

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXRKD6&P=SM
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What brand of tool ? many of the fancy aftermarket tools are JUNK. A poorly made tool will strip a head out in the blink of an eye.
Do yourself a favor and get MIP tools, I have some that are over 20 years old and still like new tips. You only need one, a 2mm will do 90% of the screws in this car.
Do not use the ball style !
Tapping is probably uneccasarry.
just started the build and striped 1 screws using my MIP tools
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Old 02-23-2013, 01:49 PM   #1661
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These ones...

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXAYPF&P=7

I've been using these AE ones with pretty good luck. Bought a new one for the xray but didn't seem to help, the tip looks fine and has no issues with other screws but the xray ones. So far only had to turn out two, hopefully that will be it. I will look into the MIP tips, are these the ones you are talking about...?

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXRKD6&P=SM
Those should be fine but Iv'e tried a few other brands and always found them inferior to MIP, which btw makes the Losi wrenches.
This is the bomb
http://miponline.com/store/mip9008.html
After some thought (and a 4 mile run) it very well could have been a junk screw.

and with that I am off to the track, races start in 2 hours
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No offense but is this you first car ? The symptoms you are describing are true foe every car. What you have to learn is the same thing we all go through. Start reading and wrenching. The XB4 shocks aren't the best but they are very good.

Ok enuf of me being a smarty pants. Apologies.
The Xray shocks have there issues like they do leak a bit. But your issues sound more like a simple bleeding process leaving some air in the shock. See youtube for some videos on the process.
As for the drop test it sounds again normal. The real test is how it runs on the track. The shock oils and pistons are part of the whole setup package and even on the same track people can have big personal differences, so you'll just need to go through the process.
ps the drop test is usually 6-12 inches....

Thanks for your advisory, you are right it's my first car. I have to start reading and wrenching. Thanks again
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Thanks for your advisory, you are right it's my first car. I have to start reading and wrenching. Thanks again
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I just finished the car, but left the shocks for last... opened the shock bag to start on them...



...one pivot ball for the shock ends is oversized/unfinished. Dont have a replacement this size so will have to just do what I can do.
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These ones...

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXAYPF&P=7

I've been using these AE ones with pretty good luck. Bought a new one for the xray but didn't seem to help, the tip looks fine and has no issues with other screws but the xray ones. So far only had to turn out two, hopefully that will be it. I will look into the MIP tips, are these the ones you are talking about...?

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXRKD6&P=SM
XRay kits you need Hudy drivers or they will strip
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