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RB6.6 Kyosho America Product Page: http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/ULTIMA-...T_p_24505.html

RB6.6 Manual http://www.kyosho.com/jpn/support/in...A_RB6_6_IM.pdf

RB6.6 Kyosho Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW_sR667utY

MSRP $639 MAP $399.99

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New RB6.6 parts (compared exploded views, prices and links are Kyosho America):

Chassis:
  1. Main chassis - UM731 - $125.99
  2. Side guards - UM732 - $9.99

Battery Holder:
  1. Battery plate - UM733 - $8.99
  2. Battery foam - UM741 - $7.99

Rear Bulkheads:
  1. MM3 and Laydown - UM740 - $9.99
    • MM3 bulkhead
    • Laydown bulkhead
    • Swaybar Holders

3 Gear Transmission (MM and RM):
  1. Transmission - UM734 - $10.99
    • transmission cases
    • spacers
    • caps
    • plastic FR & RR suspension hangers

  2. Gear Cover - UM735 - $6.99

Laydown Transmission (3 and 4 gear possible):
  1. Transmission - UM736 - $10.99
    • transmission cases
    • spacers
    • caps
    • required extra hardware
    • pastic FR suspension hanger

  2. 40T idler - UM737 - $6.99
  3. Motor plate - UM738 - $18.99
  4. Gear cover - UM739 - $6.99

Body:
  1. Blade body - UMB05 - $27.99

Optional Parts:
  1. Lightweigt Blade body - UMB05LW - $31.99
  2. Aluminum FR suspension hanger - UMW705B - $28.99 (may be able to file UMW705 to fit)
  3. Brass FR suspension hanger - UMW725B - $30.99 (looks more different than UMW725..someone confirm?)

Typical Upgrades for new RB6.6 Buyers

UMW701 Aluminum Steering Plate (RB6)
UMW702 Aluminum Crank Arm (RB6)
UMW704-0 V2 Aluminum Rear Hub Set(0°/RB6)
UMW705B Aluminum Rear Sus. Holder (RF/RB6.6) or brass UMW725B
UMW707 Aluminum Rear Sus. Holder (RR-Mid)

Nice to have:

UMW723 Aluminum Front Sus Block (Type B/10g/RB6/RT6/SC6).


Aftermarket Parts:

Front Wing: https://www.prolineracing.com/perfor...mount-alum-rb6

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Old 09-11-2016, 08:02 PM
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Smile RB6.6 Laydown Battery strap?

http://site.petitrc.com/setup/kyosho...ctronicsSetup/Does anyone know which battery strap this is?
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Originally Posted by RMKinWI
How do you determine the antisquat degree to number/size spacer under the rear arm hangers/blocks?

For example 1mm spacer under the RR block and 0.5mm spacer under RF block equals what antisquat degree?
Start reading at post #12885.
And you don't run shims under the RF holder.
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Originally Posted by TravisS27
I'm sure this has been asked but I couldn't find it anywhere.

Do I have to run a laydown in my RB6 to use the 6.6 body or will it work with my stand up 3-gear?
The 6.6 comes with a standup 3 gear.
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Old 09-12-2016, 05:18 AM
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There is a good antisquat chart on petit rc for the RB6.

You can run up to a 1mm shim under the RF block with the laydown, I'm currently running one
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Originally Posted by RogerM
There is a good antisquat chart on petit rc for the RB6.

You can run up to a 1mm shim under the RF block with the laydown, I'm currently running one
Good info!!

Thank you.
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Tebo's chart is backwards.

Thanks oPaulo!

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Originally Posted by 13Maschine
Tebo also has a decent chart for anti squat. Although it doesn't reference running a shim under the RF...Are you trying to achieve a higher roll center with this setup? Are you running no shims under the RR and thick and thin under the bulkhead?

https://jtprc.com/2015/11/29/jtp-sho...b6-rear-tower/
We've discussed Tebo's chart before and how he has it backwards.

I searched petit and still can't find any reference to running shims under the RF block. Never seen it on a setup sheet either.
I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't. I'm just curious about why. Is that much more anti-squat a benefit on certain surfaces? It moves the roll center?
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Roger Mills discussing shims under RF:
http://site.petitrc.com/setup/kyosho...eedback201209/
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Originally Posted by 13Maschine
Roger Mills discussing shims under RF:
http://site.petitrc.com/setup/kyosho...eedback201209/
Thank you sir.
Looks like he was on carpet or turf.
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Originally Posted by oPAULo
The 6.6 comes with a standup 3 gear.
Haha good point! I wasn't thinking lol
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Anyone have a body on pic of your 6.6 with 3 gear stand-up?
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Indeed, in the UK it's 99% astroturf or carpet.
Same principles apply to any surface ;

Overall pin higher = more natural rotation & more on power steering @ expense of off power sidebite.
Low pin the opposite.

More antisquat = less weight transfer on/off power so more on power steering & a little more instantaneous traction as you get on the gas at the expense of on power sidebite & ability to accelerate through bumps.

Less total antisquat the opposite.

As a rule of thumb if grip high & track smooth then increase both.

In 30+ years I've never seen a sugared dirt track but if you are running slicks you should be running high pin & loads of antisquat
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On the latest setup sheets, they reference shims under the RF and RR both.
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Some excellent info here.
Thanks for sharing!

I'm going to try more anti-squat next time out because I do notice that I'm really hooked up on power and have to blip off the throttle to make it steer.
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Cannot anyone help with a baseline indoor clay med-high traction setup for a 6.6?
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