Brushless and Lipo advice
#1
Tech Initiate
Thread Starter
Brushless and Lipo advice
Hi everyone,
I'm new to brushless and lipo's, and I recently baught a T4.1 RTR to start racing.
I want to buy a few lipo's, but I dont want to buy the wrong ones.
The two lipo's I baught: 5000mah 25c and a 5700mah 25c.
The advice I need:
1. What would be the right size( mah ) lipo, if I would want to upgrade to a
faster brushless system?
2. How does the KV and turn work on a brushless motor (what does it all mean)?
3. What brushless system would be recommended for the truck I have?
4. Are 7.4v the only lipo's used in a 1/10 race?
Thank you in advance.
I'm new to brushless and lipo's, and I recently baught a T4.1 RTR to start racing.
I want to buy a few lipo's, but I dont want to buy the wrong ones.
The two lipo's I baught: 5000mah 25c and a 5700mah 25c.
The advice I need:
1. What would be the right size( mah ) lipo, if I would want to upgrade to a
faster brushless system?
2. How does the KV and turn work on a brushless motor (what does it all mean)?
3. What brushless system would be recommended for the truck I have?
4. Are 7.4v the only lipo's used in a 1/10 race?
Thank you in advance.
#2
Hi everyone,
I'm new to brushless and lipo's, and I recently baught a T4.1 RTR to start racing.
I want to buy a few lipo's, but I dont want to buy the wrong ones.
The two lipo's I baught: 5000mah 25c and a 5700mah 25c.
The advice I need:
1. What would be the right size( mah ) lipo, if I would want to upgrade to a
faster brushless system?
2. How does the KV and turn work on a brushless motor (what does it all mean)?
3. What brushless system would be recommended for the truck I have?
4. Are 7.4v the only lipo's used in a 1/10 race?
Thank you in advance.
I'm new to brushless and lipo's, and I recently baught a T4.1 RTR to start racing.
I want to buy a few lipo's, but I dont want to buy the wrong ones.
The two lipo's I baught: 5000mah 25c and a 5700mah 25c.
The advice I need:
1. What would be the right size( mah ) lipo, if I would want to upgrade to a
faster brushless system?
2. How does the KV and turn work on a brushless motor (what does it all mean)?
3. What brushless system would be recommended for the truck I have?
4. Are 7.4v the only lipo's used in a 1/10 race?
Thank you in advance.
#3
2. How does the KV and turn work on a brushless motor (what does it all mean)?
RPM Per Volt.
lets use two motors in this example, a 2400kv motor and a 3800kv motor, at 1volts the rpm of the first motor will be 2400RPMs and the second one 3800rpm, as you raise the voltage you will get more RPMs.
A 2400kv motor vs a 3800kv motor both at 7.4Volts(2s Lipo).
2400*7.4=17760rpm
3800*7.4=28120rpm
Now lets boost the voltage on the one with the lower KV
2400*14.8(4s)=35520rpm
3800*7.4=28120rpm
As you can see above both the motors Kv and the Lipo are important factors for what RPM you are going to see.
RPM Per Volt.
lets use two motors in this example, a 2400kv motor and a 3800kv motor, at 1volts the rpm of the first motor will be 2400RPMs and the second one 3800rpm, as you raise the voltage you will get more RPMs.
A 2400kv motor vs a 3800kv motor both at 7.4Volts(2s Lipo).
2400*7.4=17760rpm
3800*7.4=28120rpm
Now lets boost the voltage on the one with the lower KV
2400*14.8(4s)=35520rpm
3800*7.4=28120rpm
As you can see above both the motors Kv and the Lipo are important factors for what RPM you are going to see.
#4
Tech Initiate
Thread Starter
Thanks you guys,
This does certainly help alot.
What would be a good C rating?
I've seen lipo's with as much as 150 c ratings, would that be necessary, think
they would cost a house load of money.
This does certainly help alot.
What would be a good C rating?
I've seen lipo's with as much as 150 c ratings, would that be necessary, think
they would cost a house load of money.
#5
Tech Lord
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1. What would be the right size( mah ) lipo, if I would want to upgrade to a
faster brushless system?
MAH is going to determine your run time and the rate at which your voltage drops over time. If you are going to race your T4, anything 5000 or above will be just fine.
2. How does the KV and turn work on a brushless motor (what does it all mean)?
If you are going to be racing, don't worry about KV, worry about the number of turns. For example, if you are going to be racing at your local track's stock class, they probably run 17.5 motors. So get a nice 17.5 and you will be fine. I recommend getting the same motor the other guys at your track run, so they can help you with gearing
3. What brushless system would be recommended for the truck I have?
There are a lot to choose from. If you are going to be running stock, I recommend the Tekin RS system. If you are going to race mod, I like the LRP SXX v2, or maybe even the new Orion RS10.
4. Are 7.4v the only lipo's used in a 1/10 race?
Yes
What would be a good C rating?
I've seen lipo's with as much as 150 c ratings, would that be necessary, think they would cost a house load of money.
40c - 60c will be perfect. The numbers are mostly bullcrap anyway, so don't worry about it. The 150c rating you see on maxamps is just marketing B.S.
faster brushless system?
MAH is going to determine your run time and the rate at which your voltage drops over time. If you are going to race your T4, anything 5000 or above will be just fine.
2. How does the KV and turn work on a brushless motor (what does it all mean)?
If you are going to be racing, don't worry about KV, worry about the number of turns. For example, if you are going to be racing at your local track's stock class, they probably run 17.5 motors. So get a nice 17.5 and you will be fine. I recommend getting the same motor the other guys at your track run, so they can help you with gearing
3. What brushless system would be recommended for the truck I have?
There are a lot to choose from. If you are going to be running stock, I recommend the Tekin RS system. If you are going to race mod, I like the LRP SXX v2, or maybe even the new Orion RS10.
4. Are 7.4v the only lipo's used in a 1/10 race?
Yes
What would be a good C rating?
I've seen lipo's with as much as 150 c ratings, would that be necessary, think they would cost a house load of money.
40c - 60c will be perfect. The numbers are mostly bullcrap anyway, so don't worry about it. The 150c rating you see on maxamps is just marketing B.S.
#6
Tech Initiate
Thread Starter
#7
Tech Initiate
Thread Starter
Cpt.America you said: going to be racing at your local track's stock class, they probably run 17.5 motors
What turn motor would you recommend for mod class?
Is turn speed or power?
#8
Tech Master
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And yes, you can mix and match motors/ESC's (normally a lot of people do anyway).
#9
Tech Lord
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Stock Motor = 17.5
Mod Motors = typically are 8.5, 9.5, 10.5, 13.5 for 2wd off-road
How hot of a motor you run depends on your skill level, It sounds like you are brand new, so I wouldn't run more than a 13.5. Unless you are running on some massive 8th scale track or something, it should be MORE than enough power until you get better.
#11
Tech Champion
There is one sensored exception if I remember correctly. The first Novak Havok ESC I think it is requires a heat sensor signal from the motor to be available, thus only worked with Novak motors, if others very few. Believe Novak quit doing that in later and and current Havok versions (Pro, 3S, SC, etc??).
#12
Tech Initiate
Thread Starter
How can I see or find the turn number on my motor?
The motor is stock and didn't come with a full manual as specs are
concerned, mind you I don't think you can call it a manual.
It's a Reedy 3300kV brushless motor.
Thanx for all the replies it's been a BIG help.
The motor is stock and didn't come with a full manual as specs are
concerned, mind you I don't think you can call it a manual.
It's a Reedy 3300kV brushless motor.
Thanx for all the replies it's been a BIG help.