Go Back  R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric Off-Road
gearing? 17.5 novak and tekin rs >

gearing? 17.5 novak and tekin rs

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

gearing? 17.5 novak and tekin rs

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-24-2011, 12:17 PM
  #1  
Tech Master
Thread Starter
iTrader: (36)
 
bigemike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: hamilton, oh
Posts: 1,756
Trader Rating: 36 (100%+)
Default gearing? 17.5 novak and tekin rs

I have a novak ss17.5 and a tekin rs, i usually run mod but am thinking of trying a 17.5 boosted for a race coming up. What settings and gearing would you use, this is for the shortcourse shootout at crcrc in columbus this weekend
bigemike is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 12:28 PM
  #2  
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (5)
 
GizmoJunkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Suwanee, GA
Posts: 999
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default

It depends on the size of the track.

Do you have hotwire?

Usually you want to run 1-3 teeth less on the pinion when you start to throw boost and such at a motor. Maybe even more depending on the class and how hot you want to boost it. For a large open track dont be afraid of 2nd gear, lol i mean turbo! I usually run about 10 on that, anywhere from 0-.20 delay and 1 on ramping. And this is if im able to use turbo, been running indoors lately.

Personally im running 3 teeth less than i was nonboosted. running 40-50 boost in the 5-20k range in SCT. Still running no boost in buggy.

You may have different settings, im not sure how the can timing is on the SS motors.

First thing to check is motor temps, and check often with new settings!
GizmoJunkie is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 03:02 PM
  #3  
Tech Master
iTrader: (27)
 
TfnG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Wesley Chapel FL
Posts: 1,281
Trader Rating: 27 (100%+)
Default

what truck u running? with my sc10 i would plan on running a 75 tooth spur and 22-27 on the pinion. lots of variables.
TfnG is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 05:13 PM
  #4  
Tech Master
Thread Starter
iTrader: (36)
 
bigemike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: hamilton, oh
Posts: 1,756
Trader Rating: 36 (100%+)
Default

Yeah I run an sc10, and a blitz ese. It is a larger indoor high traction track. I heard of issues with the tekin novak mix, I was hoping that someone that was running one was on here to chime it. I don't think I will make it to that race anyhow so I will be running my 8.5 lrp up at the factory on sunday
bigemike is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 05:18 PM
  #5  
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (5)
 
GizmoJunkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Suwanee, GA
Posts: 999
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default

I have a Ballistic 17.5 that i have run with my RS. My other motors are Epic D3's

The D3 responds much better to the boost, turbo, etc.

It seems the key with the Ballistic motor is to turn the timing down on the can and do the best you can with the boost without overheating it.
GizmoJunkie is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 06:57 PM
  #6  
Tech Master
Thread Starter
iTrader: (36)
 
bigemike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: hamilton, oh
Posts: 1,756
Trader Rating: 36 (100%+)
Default

novak motor is not the ideal motor for me, but it is what I have in the box. I know novaks are a little wierd on thier timing, and not really consistant. If I ran the class more than this one race I would get something else.
bigemike is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 07:05 PM
  #7  
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 186
Default

Rs and ballistics ive had issues. but not with Novak SS. had 3 with RS no issue. tryed 2 ballistics and had issue with both.
Cooperd82 is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 07:09 PM
  #8  
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (5)
 
GizmoJunkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Suwanee, GA
Posts: 999
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default

Yeah the Novak definitely seems to run better overall on it's own controller. So that's what I now use as a combo in buggy. rs/d3 in sct.
GizmoJunkie is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 10:45 PM
  #9  
Tech Addict
iTrader: (9)
 
Rampokker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hawkes Bay, New Zealand
Posts: 626
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Default

I'm currently running a novak 13.5ss in my sc10 along with a tekin rs. Can't remember my gearing just now, but I'm running boost of 40, and it runs great. We have a medium size track, and after a 6 min race the motor temp is around 145F. I used a 10.5 ss before with pretty much the same timing profile, and didn't have any problems with it.
Rampokker is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 11:13 PM
  #10  
Tech Adept
 
leebolt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: orange county
Posts: 147
Default

Originally Posted by Rampokker
I'm currently running a novak 13.5ss in my sc10 along with a tekin rs. Can't remember my gearing just now, but I'm running boost of 40, and it runs great. We have a medium size track, and after a 6 min race the motor temp is around 145F. I used a 10.5 ss before with pretty much the same timing profile, and didn't have any problems with it.
what are you starting/full engaged points at ? rpms? and gearing?
leebolt is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 11:22 PM
  #11  
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (5)
 
GizmoJunkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Suwanee, GA
Posts: 999
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default

Like 5443-20016 i think it comes up as in hotwire. Just in case anyone unsure, set the high end, hit calc. Then there is like a drop down menu and pick the one in the 5k range.

Last run i ran an oddball 41 on boost. Usually im in the 40-45 range.

Running on a small indoor clay track, very tight. 78/23. No need for turbo in there lol.

Oh this was SC10 on a 17.5 Trinity/Epic D3.
GizmoJunkie is offline  
Old 02-25-2011, 12:59 AM
  #12  
Tech Addict
iTrader: (9)
 
Rampokker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hawkes Bay, New Zealand
Posts: 626
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by leebolt
what are you starting/full engaged points at ? rpms? and gearing?
For me, 5000 - 20000 rpm range made the midrange a bit "soft". Not sure how to explain it, but if I let go of the throttle at the end of the straight, and then get back on the throttle after the truck has slowed a bit, it just felt like the truck had no balls. So I'm running a pretty aggressive setup. My setup is as follows:
Gearing - 81 spur / 23 pinion
Boost - 40 with start rpm of 4812 and end of 13503
No turbo. On our low traction track the turbo would cause truck to loose traction every now and again.
Rampokker is offline  
Old 02-25-2011, 07:20 AM
  #13  
Tech Adept
 
leebolt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: orange county
Posts: 147
Default

Originally Posted by Rampokker
For me, 5000 - 20000 rpm range made the midrange a bit "soft". Not sure how to explain it, but if I let go of the throttle at the end of the straight, and then get back on the throttle after the truck has slowed a bit, it just felt like the truck had no balls. So I'm running a pretty aggressive setup. My setup is as follows:
Gearing - 81 spur / 23 pinion
Boost - 40 with start rpm of 4812 and end of 13503
No turbo. On our low traction track the turbo would cause truck to loose traction every now and again.
for your 13.5?start at 4800?.this sounds like 17.5 gearing and rpms? I get the throttle feel thing too.usually, if its super fast on the sraight, its usually a little jerky on the infield
leebolt is offline  
Old 02-25-2011, 10:11 AM
  #14  
Tech Addict
iTrader: (9)
 
Rampokker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hawkes Bay, New Zealand
Posts: 626
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Default

Yip, it's for my 13.5. I wanted to get the end rpm lower, so after lowering the end rpm and doing the calculations for strart rpm, 4800 was the closest option to 5000.
Rampokker is offline  
Old 02-25-2011, 03:56 PM
  #15  
Tech Adept
 
leebolt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: orange county
Posts: 147
Default

Originally Posted by Cooperd82
Rs and ballistics ive had issues. but not with Novak SS. had 3 with RS no issue. tryed 2 ballistics and had issue with both.
i have had much success with the ss motors and all of novaks stuff for that fact..I live very close to them and like to support local companies. I did have one gen.2 13.5 bal. burn up on me on the 3rd 5 minute run.
leebolt is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.