Mid motor 2wd buggy alternative to Losi TLR22
#16
Umm...the original poster said 'cheaper' in his post so I would assume he's going cheap with his gear lol...
#17
How on EARTH would it only cost $400 to have a TLR 22 up and running?
$270 for the car
$75 for a servo
$100-150 for a speedo
$100 for a motor
$40 minimum for tires and non-ugly white wheels
$400 sounds low. Or you're using cheap, unreliable stuff.
Spending more money in this hobby is cheaper in the long run. There's a reason ThunderbirdJunkie's Novak Cyclone still works dandy, but his Futaba MC330R does not.
BTW a mid-motor car will NOT hook at Matt's track. ThunderbirdJunkie's SC10 had enough of a rough time putting down its power...a mid motor would just be a disaster. Pick up a used B4 and go from there.
$270 for the car
$75 for a servo
$100-150 for a speedo
$100 for a motor
$40 minimum for tires and non-ugly white wheels
$400 sounds low. Or you're using cheap, unreliable stuff.
Spending more money in this hobby is cheaper in the long run. There's a reason ThunderbirdJunkie's Novak Cyclone still works dandy, but his Futaba MC330R does not.
BTW a mid-motor car will NOT hook at Matt's track. ThunderbirdJunkie's SC10 had enough of a rough time putting down its power...a mid motor would just be a disaster. Pick up a used B4 and go from there.
I'm surprised that a mid-motor would be worse there. I was thinking it would be better. I could be wrong but would like to hear more opinions on this. I know several of the guys are talking about getting getting the TLR22.
I don't want another version of the SC10, which the B4 is. If I get something else, it'll be a different brand.
#18
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The 22 is mid OR rear motor...almost everybody that runs the car at an outdoor track will run it with the motor out back.
#19
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Polar Moment of Inertia
Why will most people run the motor out back? As far as mass centralization (lower polar moment of inertia) goes, mid motor placement is superior. Rotating the car around it's center of mass, whether in the air or to change turning direction from right to left, etc, is accomplished with less force if the heavier parts of the vehicle are located closer to the center of mass. You see this principle of physics (lower polar moment of inertia) employed consistantly at the highest levels of full scale, real world motorsports racing.
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Why will most people run the motor out back? As far as mass centralization (lower polar moment of inertia) goes, mid motor placement is superior. Rotating the car around it's center of mass, whether in the air or to change turning direction from right to left, etc, is accomplished with less force if the heavier parts of the vehicle are located closer to the center of mass. You see this principle of physics (lower polar moment of inertia) employed consistantly at the highest levels of full scale, real world motorsports racing.
#21
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We at X Factory have four years' experience working on traction on loose dirt. It's what Paul runs on all summer here in Ohio and Michigan. We now have low-bite set-ups on our site that will have you doing wheelies at will on most blown-out gas tracks.
Forward traction is no problem anywhere with an X - 6 Squared. And the lower moment gives you lots more corner speed before spinning. In fact, the worse the track conditions, the better for the X - 6 Sq. It negotiates rough tracks better, corners better, flies better. And all with amazing forward bite.
The easiest buggy to drive fast.
Try one and you'll see.
Many fine hobby stores carry them and parts too. We ship is 24 hours.
Forward traction is no problem anywhere with an X - 6 Squared. And the lower moment gives you lots more corner speed before spinning. In fact, the worse the track conditions, the better for the X - 6 Sq. It negotiates rough tracks better, corners better, flies better. And all with amazing forward bite.
The easiest buggy to drive fast.
Try one and you'll see.
Many fine hobby stores carry them and parts too. We ship is 24 hours.
#22
We at X Factory have four years' experience working on traction on loose dirt. It's what Paul runs on all summer here in Ohio and Michigan. We now have low-bite set-ups on our site that will have you doing wheelies at will on most blown-out gas tracks.
Forward traction is no problem anywhere with an X - 6 Squared. And the lower moment gives you lots more corner speed before spinning. In fact, the worse the track conditions, the better for the X - 6 Sq. It negotiates rough tracks better, corners better, flies better. And all with amazing forward bite.
The easiest buggy to drive fast.
Try one and you'll see.
Many fine hobby stores carry them and parts too. We ship is 24 hours.
Forward traction is no problem anywhere with an X - 6 Squared. And the lower moment gives you lots more corner speed before spinning. In fact, the worse the track conditions, the better for the X - 6 Sq. It negotiates rough tracks better, corners better, flies better. And all with amazing forward bite.
The easiest buggy to drive fast.
Try one and you'll see.
Many fine hobby stores carry them and parts too. We ship is 24 hours.
#23
Do what I'm doing and sell some off your RC. I have about 50 brush motors and a awesome FTT4 and a E-Firestorm ESE, my lipos and charger i'm going to sell. I plan on going all new for the TLR22. I rather have 1 awesome car I can dedicate my time to then 5kits i have no time for. TLR put alot of time and track hours into this car it's worth every penny. I might pick up a used XXX CR for stock racing.
#25
? X-6 maybe.
#29
I bought a used Cougar instead of the TLR22. I bought it for 230euro with servo, ESC and motor and the car was barely used.