WHAT WOULD YOUR SC SPEC CLASS BE
03-24-2010, 08:55 AM
#16
Tech Regular
I don't really believe in "spec" classes, as there is ALWAYS a way to game the system. In some ways, it could end up costing MORE than just allowing the following:
If limited to:
SC specific chassis from a major manufactre
SC specific shocks, wheels, tires from major manufactre
ANY esc
any 1/10 scale motors from major manufactre
2 cell 8.4v limit
there would be more wiggle room and people could go with what works for them. beginners are better off with slower motors anyway.
price control would be there because you're not trying to "keep up", but just run what is fastest for you.
(yes, I realize this is called "modified" and is not really "spec")
If limited to:
SC specific chassis from a major manufactre
SC specific shocks, wheels, tires from major manufactre
ANY esc
any 1/10 scale motors from major manufactre
2 cell 8.4v limit
there would be more wiggle room and people could go with what works for them. beginners are better off with slower motors anyway.
price control would be there because you're not trying to "keep up", but just run what is fastest for you.
(yes, I realize this is called "modified" and is not really "spec")
03-24-2010, 10:24 AM
#17
ok your in charge of setting the short course spec rules what kind of speedo, motor, tires would you legalize and why
here is mine
Speedo Novak Havok spec
Motor Novak Havok 17.5
Tires J concepts goose bumps
Battery Hobby King Turnigy 5000 mah 2s 20c
now box stocks would still be allowed. I picked the havok speedo and motor for dependability and price. The goosebumps cause everyone says they work everywhere. and the turnigy pack because of the $19.99 price tag
here is mine
Speedo Novak Havok spec
Motor Novak Havok 17.5
Tires J concepts goose bumps
Battery Hobby King Turnigy 5000 mah 2s 20c
now box stocks would still be allowed. I picked the havok speedo and motor for dependability and price. The goosebumps cause everyone says they work everywhere. and the turnigy pack because of the $19.99 price tag
Motor: Any ROAR legal 1/10 motor
Tires: Any tires based on ROAR specs
Battery: Any ROAR legal 2S
Chassis (weight, dimensions): use ROAR rules
No need to spec a speedo.
03-24-2010, 10:57 AM
#18
I prefer this setup:
Stock 2wd SCT
- RTR motor included with any SCT or ROAR 17.5 motor
- RTR Tires available on any RTR SCT
- RTR ESC available on any SCT or brushless ESC
- if Brushless 1/10 ESC used, timing advanced / boost turned off
- SCT match dimensions set forth by ROAR unless deviation allowed (ie- Strike)
- 7.4V battery limit
Super Stock 2wd SCT
- 13.5 / 3300Kv motor limit
- Any 1/10 Scale Short Course Truck Tire
- Any 1/10 Scale ESC, no setting limitations
- SCT Matches dimensions set forth by ROAR unless deviation allowed (ie- Strike)
- 7.4V battery limit
Stock 2wd SCT
- RTR motor included with any SCT or ROAR 17.5 motor
- RTR Tires available on any RTR SCT
- RTR ESC available on any SCT or brushless ESC
- if Brushless 1/10 ESC used, timing advanced / boost turned off
- SCT match dimensions set forth by ROAR unless deviation allowed (ie- Strike)
- 7.4V battery limit
Super Stock 2wd SCT
- 13.5 / 3300Kv motor limit
- Any 1/10 Scale Short Course Truck Tire
- Any 1/10 Scale ESC, no setting limitations
- SCT Matches dimensions set forth by ROAR unless deviation allowed (ie- Strike)
- 7.4V battery limit
03-24-2010, 11:05 AM
#19
The strike turned out to be a piece of crap.
Nobody runs them around here anymore.
Dogbones bend, wheels snap in half, chassis breakages....complete junk...
The slash is still the most durable sc truck on the market.
The Sc10 is the best looking sc truck, not very popular here.
The kyosho seems to have aspects of the blitz with better overall shocks.
The blitz, slash, and kyosho are all people run around here now.
It's just gotten way too competitve for my tastes.
If they had a battery rule, id run mine, but they dont so I wont.
Plain and simple...
Nobody runs them around here anymore.
Dogbones bend, wheels snap in half, chassis breakages....complete junk...
The slash is still the most durable sc truck on the market.
The Sc10 is the best looking sc truck, not very popular here.
The kyosho seems to have aspects of the blitz with better overall shocks.
The blitz, slash, and kyosho are all people run around here now.
It's just gotten way too competitve for my tastes.
If they had a battery rule, id run mine, but they dont so I wont.
Plain and simple...
03-24-2010, 11:06 AM
#20
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I prefer this setup:
Stock 2wd SCT
- RTR motor included with any SCT or ROAR 17.5 motor
- RTR Tires available on any RTR SCT
- RTR ESC available on any SCT or brushless ESC
- if Brushless 1/10 ESC used, timing advanced / boost turned off
- SCT match dimensions set forth by ROAR unless deviation allowed (ie- Strike)
- 7.4V battery limit
Super Stock 2wd SCT
- 13.5 / 3300Kv motor limit
- Any 1/10 Scale Short Course Truck Tire
- Any 1/10 Scale ESC, no setting limitations
- SCT Matches dimensions set forth by ROAR unless deviation allowed (ie- Strike)
- 7.4V battery limit
Stock 2wd SCT
- RTR motor included with any SCT or ROAR 17.5 motor
- RTR Tires available on any RTR SCT
- RTR ESC available on any SCT or brushless ESC
- if Brushless 1/10 ESC used, timing advanced / boost turned off
- SCT match dimensions set forth by ROAR unless deviation allowed (ie- Strike)
- 7.4V battery limit
Super Stock 2wd SCT
- 13.5 / 3300Kv motor limit
- Any 1/10 Scale Short Course Truck Tire
- Any 1/10 Scale ESC, no setting limitations
- SCT Matches dimensions set forth by ROAR unless deviation allowed (ie- Strike)
- 7.4V battery limit
03-24-2010, 11:32 AM
#21
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You can't tech the boost so there is no reason to make that a rule. I also don't like the 17.5 / 13.5 stock split. This just dilutes the classes too much. It minds me of ROAR/NORRCA competing standards. I peronally prefer the 13.5. The fact that someone is complaining that they can't run 1/8 scale buggy tires on their sc truck shows it how ridiculous things have gotten.
Let me some it up based on my 20 plus years of experience:
No rules = chaos
To many rules = cheaters
A few simple rules = a long lasting competitive racing class
I prefer this setup:
Stock 2wd SCT
- RTR motor included with any SCT or ROAR 17.5 motor
- RTR Tires available on any RTR SCT
- RTR ESC available on any SCT or brushless ESC
- if Brushless 1/10 ESC used, timing advanced / boost turned off
- SCT match dimensions set forth by ROAR unless deviation allowed (ie- Strike)
- 7.4V battery limit
Super Stock 2wd SCT
- 13.5 / 3300Kv motor limit
- Any 1/10 Scale Short Course Truck Tire
- Any 1/10 Scale ESC, no setting limitations
- SCT Matches dimensions set forth by ROAR unless deviation allowed (ie- Strike)
- 7.4V battery limit
Stock 2wd SCT
- RTR motor included with any SCT or ROAR 17.5 motor
- RTR Tires available on any RTR SCT
- RTR ESC available on any SCT or brushless ESC
- if Brushless 1/10 ESC used, timing advanced / boost turned off
- SCT match dimensions set forth by ROAR unless deviation allowed (ie- Strike)
- 7.4V battery limit
Super Stock 2wd SCT
- 13.5 / 3300Kv motor limit
- Any 1/10 Scale Short Course Truck Tire
- Any 1/10 Scale ESC, no setting limitations
- SCT Matches dimensions set forth by ROAR unless deviation allowed (ie- Strike)
- 7.4V battery limit
Let me some it up based on my 20 plus years of experience:
No rules = chaos
To many rules = cheaters
A few simple rules = a long lasting competitive racing class
03-24-2010, 11:33 AM
#22
+1
We run like this in our stadium truck class. Both classes are the EXACT same rules. Only difference is skill level. When going from the "novice" to the "advanced" class..requires $0.
We've been following what was the roar rules..17.5, any roar battery/tire etc. but we DID allow a box stock to run w/them This way if somebody spent the 225 for a new SC...they were not left out, or felt like they needed to buy brushless right away. This was ran on a 36x60' indoor ozite carpet track, so mixing the 2 motor types didn't seem to matter.
I think the roar rules still say 17.5. I realize this is a "slower" motor, but it's easier to handle a slower car then it is a faster car. It hink it keeps the competition closer. Packing the heats w/wheel to wheel racing is much more fun to watch and participate in then a couple guys that are so far out cuase their skill level with fast cars FAR out paces somebody with "decent" skill level.
We run like this in our stadium truck class. Both classes are the EXACT same rules. Only difference is skill level. When going from the "novice" to the "advanced" class..requires $0.
We've been following what was the roar rules..17.5, any roar battery/tire etc. but we DID allow a box stock to run w/them This way if somebody spent the 225 for a new SC...they were not left out, or felt like they needed to buy brushless right away. This was ran on a 36x60' indoor ozite carpet track, so mixing the 2 motor types didn't seem to matter.
I think the roar rules still say 17.5. I realize this is a "slower" motor, but it's easier to handle a slower car then it is a faster car. It hink it keeps the competition closer. Packing the heats w/wheel to wheel racing is much more fun to watch and participate in then a couple guys that are so far out cuase their skill level with fast cars FAR out paces somebody with "decent" skill level.
03-24-2010, 11:41 AM
#23
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You can't tech the boost so there is no reason to make that a rule. I also don't like the 17.5 / 13.5 stock split. This just dilutes the classes too much. It minds me of ROAR/NORRCA competing standards. I peronally prefer the 13.5. The fact that someone is complaining that they can't run 1/8 scale buggy tires on their sc truck shows it how ridiculous things have gotten.
Let me some it up based on my 20 plus years of experience:
No rules = chaos
To many rules = cheaters
A few simple rules = a long lasting competitive racing class
You can't tech the boost so there is no reason to make that a rule. I also don't like the 17.5 / 13.5 stock split. This just dilutes the classes too much. It minds me of ROAR/NORRCA competing standards. I peronally prefer the 13.5. The fact that someone is complaining that they can't run 1/8 scale buggy tires on their sc truck shows it how ridiculous things have gotten.
Let me some it up based on my 20 plus years of experience:
No rules = chaos
To many rules = cheaters
A few simple rules = a long lasting competitive racing class
03-24-2010, 11:51 AM
#24
Tech needs to be quick and easy. You can't hook up a hotwire to every car, and there are too many proprietary links and software out there.
03-24-2010, 11:59 AM
#25
So in short, it is possible to tech, it would just be more time consuming in your opinion. After seeing how long it takes to plug in a hotwire and pull up the settings on a laptop, doesn't seem like much, in my opinion, which is what this thread is about.
As a side note, it has been stated in the USVTA thread that Tekin was willing to make a software version that would have a certain light sequence, etc. to signify that boost and timing etc. was turned off for quick teching.
As a side note, it has been stated in the USVTA thread that Tekin was willing to make a software version that would have a certain light sequence, etc. to signify that boost and timing etc. was turned off for quick teching.
03-24-2010, 02:16 PM
#26
Our track, we run box stock slash, with changes allowed to receiver and servo, anything else is considered Mod CORR.
We usually have 20 trucks of Stock Slash. 8-10 of Mod CORR.
We usually have 20 trucks of Stock Slash. 8-10 of Mod CORR.
03-25-2010, 01:25 PM
#28
My spec class would be mod. If you turn slow laps then you run w/ the slow lap guys until you want to step up to the fast cars.
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