Durango DEX210 Thread
Hey all, been running the dex210 and love it for the most part. Is it a common issue for this buggy to tend to understeer? I have been trying to shake this issue for a while now and have yet to be successful. I recently switched to a shorty pack mounted full forward, but it still pushes more than I'd like. I've tried stiffer rear springs, raking ride height, the tires everyone else is using on the track, front closed cell inserts and open cell inserts. When I make changes, I honestly can't tell if there's much difference turn in at all. This is frustrating because a buddy of mine just picked up a b4.2 and it handles wayyy better and has all the steering you would want. My steering throw is usually set to full lock, so I know that isn't an issue. It just seems like the front cannot bite when entering a turn. Any thoughts would be appreciated! I can try to post my setup sheet later if that would help. Looking for suggestions of changes I can make that would increase steering. I wouldn't mind making it twitchy and oversteer and dial back from there.
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Do you run on clay?
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Is your car set up as rear or mid motor? Forgot to ask, I just traded my b4.2 for the 210 and I run on clay. I am interested in the answer to your question even tho I have not even raced mine yet. I looked at this buggy cause of all the adjustability that is built into its design. Also many guys at our track are switching from rear to mid motor. I am still trying to read the entire thread to get as many tips as I can but I'm afraid it will take me years to sort thru all this info. It's been very helpful tho , I must say there are a lot of great little bits and pieces that should help. Good luck and I'll post too once I run mine.
Hey all, been running the dex210 and love it for the most part. Is it a common issue for this buggy to tend to understeer? I have been trying to shake this issue for a while now and have yet to be successful. I recently switched to a shorty pack mounted full forward, but it still pushes more than I'd like. I've tried stiffer rear springs, raking ride height, the tires everyone else is using on the track, front closed cell inserts and open cell inserts. When I make changes, I honestly can't tell if there's much difference turn in at all. This is frustrating because a buddy of mine just picked up a b4.2 and it handles wayyy better and has all the steering you would want. My steering throw is usually set to full lock, so I know that isn't an issue. It just seems like the front cannot bite when entering a turn. Any thoughts would be appreciated! I can try to post my setup sheet later if that would help. Looking for suggestions of changes I can make that would increase steering. I wouldn't mind making it twitchy and oversteer and dial back from there.
Hey all, been running the dex210 and love it for the most part. Is it a common issue for this buggy to tend to understeer? I have been trying to shake this issue for a while now and have yet to be successful. I recently switched to a shorty pack mounted full forward, but it still pushes more than I'd like. I've tried stiffer rear springs, raking ride height, the tires everyone else is using on the track, front closed cell inserts and open cell inserts. When I make changes, I honestly can't tell if there's much difference turn in at all. This is frustrating because a buddy of mine just picked up a b4.2 and it handles wayyy better and has all the steering you would want. My steering throw is usually set to full lock, so I know that isn't an issue. It just seems like the front cannot bite when entering a turn. Any thoughts would be appreciated! I can try to post my setup sheet later if that would help. Looking for suggestions of changes I can make that would increase steering. I wouldn't mind making it twitchy and oversteer and dial back from there.
Hey all, been running the dex210 and love it for the most part. Is it a common issue for this buggy to tend to understeer? I have been trying to shake this issue for a while now and have yet to be successful. I recently switched to a shorty pack mounted full forward, but it still pushes more than I'd like. I've tried stiffer rear springs, raking ride height, the tires everyone else is using on the track, front closed cell inserts and open cell inserts. When I make changes, I honestly can't tell if there's much difference turn in at all. This is frustrating because a buddy of mine just picked up a b4.2 and it handles wayyy better and has all the steering you would want. My steering throw is usually set to full lock, so I know that isn't an issue. It just seems like the front cannot bite when entering a turn. Any thoughts would be appreciated! I can try to post my setup sheet later if that would help. Looking for suggestions of changes I can make that would increase steering. I wouldn't mind making it twitchy and oversteer and dial back from there.
2.Have you shimmed the steering turnbuckles to eliminate bump steer?
3. Using more antisquat will give you more off power steering.
4. Run less trailing.
You said it doesn't bite enough entering the turn. Is this turn low speed or high speed? Is the track high bite or loose?
if its a RTR 210, get rid of the servo saver.
Getting a kit one of these, never had a 10th scale buggy. The guys like the rtr tires when our track is wet, what is an approximate substitute. They aren't happy in the powder. What works good with a thick loose layer, spikes?
Our track is medium packed sandy clay.
@dino what's popular at B&D down south? We plan on making a few trips next year.
Our track is medium packed sandy clay.
@dino what's popular at B&D down south? We plan on making a few trips next year.
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I have also noticed the understeer. I would also agree the b4's do turn better. But like said above the car has so many adjustments Im sure it can be setup to turn better. But I have not fiqured out what to tune to get better steering.
I run inline steering on all of my cars (but I'm not necessarily against trailing) and I will never ever run 30 degrees of front caster. 15-25 somewhere is generally where I stay.
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My suggestion was going to be to run inline front axels. The buggy comes setup trailing. Going to inline will yield a lot more steering. Use the 0 inserts up front as it made a huge difference to me.
This car does not lack for steering at all. If steering isn't good it's a setup problem.
Any difference between shortening the front camber link at the tower vs the hub?
Thanks for the tips guys! Few more details, I'm running on a high grip damp clay conditions where super soft compound is a must. I'm also running rm3. I also tend to shy away from adding more weight to the vehicle. I feel as if the setup should be able to be tweaked so that it turns well. I'm going to try running no trailing and maybe some more aggressive caster angles and see if that helps...
What I'm really looking for is just some more rotation. I really like the feel of a buggy that will rotate on command. Not to compare apples to oranges, but this is one of the handling characteristics I really love about my eb48. Exceptional rotation on demand.
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The 210 does not lack steering... What pistons and shock oil are you running? Go to Ryan L. site and copy one of his set ups it will give you a good staring point with pistions etc.