R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric Off-Road

Like Tree43Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-11-2012, 03:36 PM   #7171
Tech Adept
 
SoCalGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Camarillo, California
Posts: 220
Default

Hey guys,
Finishing up the build and need a good starting point for the shocks. I've looked at numerous set up sheets and it seems to be all over the place.
Plan on starting out with the stock (kit) springs (unless you advise differently).
Seems most are using 4 hole pistons; should I drill out the included blanks?
Which diameter holes to start with?
What weight oil for front / rear?
Just looking for a good starting point to get me going. Also, starting w/ 30* caster, 1mm trailing, 3* rear toe, 3* antisquat. Small clay track; pretty slow and technical.
Thanks again guys!
SoCal
__________________
Mugen MBX6 Eco, Kyosho ZX-5 FS2, Team Durango DEX210
Tamiya TB-03, Tamiya M-05 Pro, Associate 18R, Vaterra Kemora
SoCalGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2012, 04:08 PM   #7172
Tech Apprentice
 
Furtado66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 66
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalGuy View Post
Hey guys,
Finishing up the build and need a good starting point for the shocks. I've looked at numerous set up sheets and it seems to be all over the place.
Plan on starting out with the stock (kit) springs (unless you advise differently).
Seems most are using 4 hole pistons; should I drill out the included blanks?
Which diameter holes to start with?
What weight oil for front / rear?
Just looking for a good starting point to get me going. Also, starting w/ 30* caster, 1mm trailing, 3* rear toe, 3* antisquat. Small clay track; pretty slow and technical.
Thanks again guys!
SoCal
Setup also depends on if your are going to use shorty packs or full size.
Furtado66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2012, 04:41 PM   #7173
Tech Adept
 
SoCalGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Camarillo, California
Posts: 220
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Furtado66 View Post
Setup also depends on if your are going to use shorty packs or full size.
Good point; full size to start, and most likely a 24 gram weight under the servo.
SoCal
__________________
Mugen MBX6 Eco, Kyosho ZX-5 FS2, Team Durango DEX210
Tamiya TB-03, Tamiya M-05 Pro, Associate 18R, Vaterra Kemora
SoCalGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2012, 05:38 PM   #7174
Tech Regular
 
JeremyHarris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 309
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalGuy View Post
Good point; full size to start, and most likely a 24 gram weight under the servo.
SoCal
I advise against the any weight especially if you're using a full sized pack. I run 4 x 55 hole tapered pistons with AE 30 up front and AE 27.5 in the rear and I use black springs front and rear. But it also depends on track conditions more than anything.
__________________
Jeremy G. Harris
Pro-Line-RCWrapz-LFR-SXT-KustomRCGraphics-Airtronics-Team Associated-Reedy-LRP-Superiorhobbies.com
JeremyHarris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2012, 06:30 PM   #7175
Tech Adept
 
SoCalGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Camarillo, California
Posts: 220
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JeremyHarris View Post
I run 4 x 55 hole tapered
Thanks Jeremy. Where can I find these; sounds easier than drilling out (or filling the holes) in mine.
__________________
Mugen MBX6 Eco, Kyosho ZX-5 FS2, Team Durango DEX210
Tamiya TB-03, Tamiya M-05 Pro, Associate 18R, Vaterra Kemora
SoCalGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2012, 07:05 PM   #7176
Tech Regular
 
JeremyHarris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 309
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalGuy View Post
Thanks Jeremy. Where can I find these; sounds easier than drilling out (or filling the holes) in mine.
I ordered mine from Nick off of Oople. I have tried them both Taper up and Taper down and prefer taper down on most surfaces but there is a huge difference between standard piston and tapered (either way). I ran 4 x 55 standard pistons, as well. I used a finger drill and #55 bit and drilled out the blank ones from the kit.
__________________
Jeremy G. Harris
Pro-Line-RCWrapz-LFR-SXT-KustomRCGraphics-Airtronics-Team Associated-Reedy-LRP-Superiorhobbies.com
JeremyHarris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2012, 08:08 PM   #7177
Tech Master
 
Slimsh8t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: AZ
Posts: 1,127
Trader Rating: 39 (100%+)
Default

Has anyone using the lunsford turnbuckle kit had any problem with the ball cups breaking. I had 2 break today in half with the cup still on the ball. Just spent $80 bucks for these things and so far not impressed.
__________________
Kevin Murphy
Associated B5m/Reedy
AP Custom Paint/Kal-Gard/
Slimsh8t is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2012, 09:39 PM   #7178
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: HB, CA
Posts: 715
Trader Rating: 31 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalGuy View Post
Hey guys,
Finishing up the build and need a good starting point for the shocks. I've looked at numerous set up sheets and it seems to be all over the place.
Plan on starting out with the stock (kit) springs (unless you advise differently).
Seems most are using 4 hole pistons; should I drill out the included blanks?
Which diameter holes to start with?
What weight oil for front / rear?
Just looking for a good starting point to get me going. Also, starting w/ 30* caster, 1mm trailing, 3* rear toe, 3* antisquat. Small clay track; pretty slow and technical.
Thanks again guys!
SoCal
Definitely wouldn't do 1mm trailing, do 4mm.
Ur track sounds like mine. Don't use kit springs, they are for MM setup. Dk grn or blk front and dk blue rear is what I would advise. 30 front 25 rear. Pistons r pretty much the same for most people 4x 1.2rear 4x1.3 front, look at some setups on petit rc and you will see what people r running on clay.
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/durango...ngoDEX210.html

Pistons are done by most by glueing 2 of the holes shut on stock piston which is 6x 1.2 with CA or epoxy.
__________________
MBX6-ECO, B5m
Cspurlock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2012, 10:26 PM   #7179
Tech Master
 
zipperfoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1,130
Trader Rating: 16 (100%+)
Default

I just got my B4.1 worlds dialed in and handling just the way I want. So that means it's time to sell it and try something else. Did the 22 thing and was always chasing a set up. Started stock did every mod in the book but could not get it to hold a tight line around the track. From what I am reading it kind of looks like the same thing with the 210. Is there a base set up that works on a variety of tracks or am I going to be playing with oils, pistons and springs in a never ending cycle of trying to get traction and handling at each track I visit? Ya it's all part of the fun, and the 22 definitely improved my diff building skills after five rebuilds in 1.5 months, but still I would like to know what I am in for!

I tried the 410 and noticed that at my local track there were guys using four completely different set ups on four different buggies. Which means to me there was no baseline set up.
zipperfoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2012, 10:49 PM   #7180
Tech Regular
 
JeremyHarris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 309
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zipperfoot View Post
I just got my B4.1 worlds dialed in and handling just the way I want. So that means it's time to sell it and try something else. Did the 22 thing and was always chasing a set up. Started stock did every mod in the book but could not get it to hold a tight line around the track. From what I am reading it kind of looks like the same thing with the 210. Is there a base set up that works on a variety of tracks or am I going to be playing with oils, pistons and springs in a never ending cycle of trying to get traction and handling at each track I visit? Ya it's all part of the fun, and the 22 definitely improved my diff building skills after five rebuilds in 1.5 months, but still I would like to know what I am in for!

I tried the 410 and noticed that at my local track there were guys using four completely different set ups on four different buggies. Which means to me there was no baseline set up.
There is no easy button with car setups. This car and the 22 are very tunable and the smallest adjustments make a very large difference. It will take time to develope your own setup because everyones "dialed" set up may not work for you at your track(s). I have a "base" setup for Florida tracks but I do have to fine tune at each different track. My original kit diff had 100+ runs on it and still felt new. The only reason I rebuilt it is because I was for the Reedy Race. Once you finally get a set up on this car that works for you its well worth it.
__________________
Jeremy G. Harris
Pro-Line-RCWrapz-LFR-SXT-KustomRCGraphics-Airtronics-Team Associated-Reedy-LRP-Superiorhobbies.com
JeremyHarris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2012, 11:26 PM   #7181
Tech Master
 
zipperfoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1,130
Trader Rating: 16 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JeremyHarris View Post
There is no easy button with car setups. This car and the 22 are very tunable and the smallest adjustments make a very large difference. It will take time to develope your own setup because everyones "dialed" set up may not work for you at your track(s). I have a "base" setup for Florida tracks but I do have to fine tune at each different track. My original kit diff had 100+ runs on it and still felt new. The only reason I rebuilt it is because I was for the Reedy Race. Once you finally get a set up on this car that works for you its well worth it.
Thanks for the honest answer. This was kind of a test post as well to see what kind of responses i received. If i posted this question about the b4 on their forum, i would have received smart [email protected]&$d answers galore. Looks like i may have found a new home.
zipperfoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2012, 02:35 AM   #7182
Tech Elite
 
DBL15's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 3,171
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Default

rear front suspension 3toe 3kick up

in metal anyone know who makes them ?
__________________
C/O Coast2coastrc (www.coast2coastrc.com.au) SMC Lipo
Tekno Rc , Team Tekin , Panther-Rc , De Racing , Upgrade Rc , Team Triton rc , M2C clutches , Nitro X fuels
DBL15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2012, 02:50 AM   #7183
Tech Fanatic
 
onekiwi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sweden but from New Zealand
Posts: 898
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

Rcjunky here on the forum or tresrey 2 with spacers
__________________
XB2 CE
XB4 16
Sanwa
Hobbywing
#kiwipaint on facebook
onekiwi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2012, 03:15 AM   #7184
ekt
Tech Master
 
ekt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Burnie, Australia
Posts: 1,228
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

http://www.teamsr.co/shop/product.asp?l=Durango
They make 0, 1.5 and 3
ekt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2012, 06:47 AM   #7185
Tech Regular
 
JeremyHarris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 309
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DBL15 View Post
rear front suspension 3toe 3kick up

in metal anyone know who makes them ?
TSR
__________________
Jeremy G. Harris
Pro-Line-RCWrapz-LFR-SXT-KustomRCGraphics-Airtronics-Team Associated-Reedy-LRP-Superiorhobbies.com
JeremyHarris is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
St Ives RC Club B4Bandit Australian Racing 16576 Yesterday 07:25 PM
EPMTs check in here. (a subsidiary of TNT) overtki11 Singapore R/C Racers 55470 05-08-2017 12:57 AM
Team Durango DEX410 ASH93A Australian Racing 925 04-08-2013 10:51 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 01:29 PM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net