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Old 08-07-2012, 06:48 AM   #7111
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Hi All,
Just got my new 210 in the mail today
Regarding the diff build, I noticed on the TD website, their diff build video shows RED Locktite being used on the diff nut. Would this be the correct way to go? I always thought the red was practically permanent. I'll be using the B-Fast kit.
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:17 AM   #7112
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Hi All,
Just got my new 210 in the mail today
Regarding the diff build, I noticed on the TD website, their diff build video shows RED Locktite being used on the diff nut. Would this be the correct way to go? I always thought the red was practically permanent. I'll be using the B-Fast kit.
Thanks,
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I have never used loctite of any kind on my diff nut, and never had one loosen up.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:29 AM   #7113
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[QUOTE=brians11;11063633]Hoping for some help with some rear side bite. I feel like the rear end rotates a little too hard through the middle of the turns, but I'm not real sure where to start on changes, so any help would be appreciated. I've tried several rear tires and didn't change too much, so I'm thinking it has more to do with the suspension.

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I would try a few things:
move your front camber link to the #2 position on the tower
move your rear shock to the #2 on the arm
move your rear hubs to the middle (2&2)
change your camber to 1deg

do all these changes at once, or you won't feel the proper effect.

Then if you find you are a little starved for traction, go to 3.5 rear toe, don't move the axles forward.

Then at that point try moving the rear shock from the #3 on the tower to the #2 and see which feels better.

Then if the car is feeling better, you might try going to a Dk Grn front spring, you might be a little soft at Black.

Just my 2 cents
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Old 08-07-2012, 09:06 AM   #7114
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Hey gents I have been reading up on the Durango DEX210 and really thinking of going with this racing platform for the up coming indoor season!

What I would like to ask is what do you think of the car and/or compaired to the B4.1/22's ect.?

I know most cars are all 90% driver 10% car but wanted to ask you. "ANYONE"

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Old 08-07-2012, 09:19 AM   #7115
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Hey gents I have been reading up on the Durango DEX210 and really thinking of going with this racing platform for the up coming indoor season!

What I would like to ask is what do you think of the car and/or compaired to the B4.1/22's ect.?

I know most cars are all 90% driver 10% car but wanted to ask you. "ANYONE"

Thanks for the feedback!
I am sure everyone will have a different opinioin, but IMO I think the car is better everywhere over the B4. I think it has better steering then the 22, but is not better through the rough then it. I think the car excels in its ability to tune it over other cars.
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Old 08-07-2012, 10:51 AM   #7116
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Hoping for some help with some rear side bite. I feel like the rear end rotates a little too hard through the middle of the turns, but I'm not real sure where to start on changes, so any help would be appreciated. I've tried several rear tires and didn't change too much, so I'm thinking it has more to do with the suspension.

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You can move the bottom of the rear shock to the inside hole, I have a fourth hole drilled in my rear shocktower, as well. You can also try adding a 1mm washer under the rear ballstud. You can also try the 3/1.5 block instead of 3/3 and go to the Durango light red rear spring (rate 2.00) or the losi yellow rear (rate 2.05) and try running your battery a little further back. Also, lengthen the front camber link will take some steering away and that will help the rear feel more planted.
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Old 08-07-2012, 01:39 PM   #7117
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Can't wait to get my 210 going.
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Old 08-07-2012, 04:41 PM   #7118
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I am sure everyone will have a different opinioin, but IMO I think the car is better everywhere over the B4. I think it has better steering then the 22, but is not better through the rough then it. I think the car excels in its ability to tune it over other cars.
Cool thanks for the feedback!

Jerod Tebo races at my local track. Wouldnt mind trying a Kyosho neither but im just like to be different and try something that not to many have!
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Have you tried a longer rear link on the outside of the rear hub or 1.5 squat? Try longer link in front? This might be only me, but your ride height seems really low...I rarely go below 24mm anywhere. You should get rid of that big spur...motor out all the way in the back will act as a pendulum. I run a 81 RW with a 8.5.
I know you mentioned tires, but...what are the fast guys running?
So far, there doesn't seem to be a 'fast' tire yet. We got new dirt at the beginning of July and are still searching.

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I've found outboard toe to help lock the rear end down middle-out on power. I also see you're running switches- have you tried rattlers? And I'm generally not a fan of cc foams on a low bite track, usually run something like a Trinity Bomb 1 or JC And1 inserts. And I agree with kwiksi on the ride height- too low and the rear end can bottom mid corner and wash out on ya.
I've tried Rattlers, but the track gets a little dust on it at times and gets really slick. I totally forgot about the toe inserts for the hubs and such. I saw the options on the setup sheet, but just thought I was missing something. I'll keep this in mind next time.

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Hoping for some help with some rear side bite. I feel like the rear end rotates a little too hard through the middle of the turns, but I'm not real sure where to start on changes, so any help would be appreciated. I've tried several rear tires and didn't change too much, so I'm thinking it has more to do with the suspension.

Brian

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I would try a few things:
move your front camber link to the #2 position on the tower
move your rear shock to the #2 on the arm
move your rear hubs to the middle (2&2)
change your camber to 1deg

do all these changes at once, or you won't feel the proper effect.

Then if you find you are a little starved for traction, go to 3.5 rear toe, don't move the axles forward.

Then at that point try moving the rear shock from the #3 on the tower to the #2 and see which feels better.

Then if the car is feeling better, you might try going to a Dk Grn front spring, you might be a little soft at Black.

Just my 2 cents
Thanks for the detailed response, I'll keep all of this in mind.

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You can move the bottom of the rear shock to the inside hole, I have a fourth hole drilled in my rear shocktower, as well. You can also try adding a 1mm washer under the rear ballstud. You can also try the 3/1.5 block instead of 3/3 and go to the Durango light red rear spring (rate 2.00) or the losi yellow rear (rate 2.05) and try running your battery a little further back. Also, lengthen the front camber link will take some steering away and that will help the rear feel more planted.
Thanks for the input, I'll give these a go. Do you guys feel the shock oil/piston combo is ok? I hadn't thought about the large spur gear effect.
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Seen my buddy run his tonight for it's maiden voyage, have to say, it looked pretty good.

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So been reading up and am getting a roller to test. What is the issue with the diff on the car? Heard some mixed feelings.
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So been reading up and am getting a roller to test. What is the issue with the diff on the car? Heard some mixed feelings.
Stock diff is good, everything wore even, lasted about 4 months and needs outdrives and dogbones. Not bad this diff seems to like being run tight so get it set on the bench first. Whole diff in bag is pretty cool also.
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So been reading up and am getting a roller to test. What is the issue with the diff on the car? Heard some mixed feelings.
if improperly set, the circlip will pop thus diff will slip, even if you thighten it. just make sure you install the cage race thrust bearing correctly and you will be alright. also follow tips on how to build the diff in TD sight...
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Thanks guys. I am really picky on building/ breaking my diffs in properly with all my cars. I'll be sure to check out the site for the info on their diff.

I understand the thrust bearing is the cage type. My Team C cars have that as well, and it sucks. What is the way you guys install the one on the Rango? Maybe that will help the Team C out as well.
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Thanks guys. I am really picky on building/ breaking my diffs in properly with all my cars. I'll be sure to check out the site for the info on their diff.

I understand the thrust bearing is the cage type. My Team C cars have that as well, and it sucks. What is the way you guys install the one on the Rango? Maybe that will help the Team C out as well.
make sure to take note of the orientation and use a circlip tool, mine i used a cheapo bent needle nose pliers and dremel the tip to fit in the circlip, results was no diff slipping. aside from that just the normal diff break in and your good to go...


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