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Old 11-27-2011, 04:54 PM   #2311
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I came out to SDRC Friday night, down from Washington on vacation, and sat and chatted it up with Patrick for most of the night. SDRC is a great facility, great track, and the people seem great as well. Patrick hooked me up with a huge stack of 210 wheels in black that he didn't want to run... i still need to paypal him.... you were MIA! Maybe next time.

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Ya, I ended up going out of town for Thanksgiving wth wife I realized on Saturday that you were supposed to be there on Friday Sorry I couldnt be there! I did go on Wednesday and had a great night with my 210...qual 3rd, led half the main and then ruined myself two laps in a row over that triple section, ended up 3rd for the night though, car was super dialed
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Short packs make a change in how much the car weights and handles. I prefer to run them in mine after testing back to back. The simple ability to shift the weight of the pack front to back is a huge factor. There are setups on TD's website for both battery types.

I've gone back and forth between RM4 and RM3 and if I need rear grip RM4 is where it's at. If I need steering RM3 provides more.
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+1 I ran the shorty back to back to back against a standard pack and I wont go back to the standard. With the weight of standard packs getting up to the 280-300+ gram range, the 200 gram shorty just makes more sense.
thanks i cant wait to get mine!
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Old 11-27-2011, 05:34 PM   #2313
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i have had my 210 for a few weeks and just got the chance to start building it. wow i hope it drives better than the instructions their pretty bad but the fit and finish is awesome besides a few missing parts.
i hope i can get it on the track soon
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Old 11-27-2011, 05:35 PM   #2314
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could someone please post where they have carbon fiber shock towers for the rear and on a different note I believe I saw a carbon fiber chasis for the buggy and was curious if anyone has tried it or has an opinion on it.
This is where I got my CF shock towers. http://www.akularacing.co.uk/

It took about 10 days or so to get them from the UK.
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Old 11-27-2011, 05:56 PM   #2315
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i have had my 210 for a few weeks and just got the chance to start building it. wow i hope it drives better than the instructions their pretty bad but the fit and finish is awesome besides a few missing parts.
i hope i can get it on the track soon
Yeah.. once built it looks the bees knees... but the instructions are terrible at best. I understand that TD are a racers that build cars for racers, but there were several sections where the manual is wrong or missing instructions altogether.
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:10 PM   #2316
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Yeah.. once built it looks the bees knees... but the instructions are terrible at best. I understand that TD are a racers that build cars for racers, but there were several sections where the manual is wrong or missing instructions altogether.
i have been in the hobby for a long time and have put a lot of kits together and the durango by far is the worst.
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:14 PM   #2317
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Is the Losi shorty pack the one everyone is using or is there something else out there that is better?
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:22 PM   #2318
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Joe,
I did my shorty pack testing with the Losi 3800 60c, I am waiting on my Fantom shorty packs now.

I think most of the shorty packs are within a few grams of each other.
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:23 PM   #2319
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Well first time out with the Rango this weekend at the toys for tots race in Columbus.... car was not bad but they deff. need more front bias im moving lipo forward.. tons of rear bight but buggy just loves to jump nose high and does not arc enough... was on a Tq pace and POP of comes a ball cup on a very slight landing .. I could not finish a Qualifier or the main because of these damn ballcups... buggy was never on its top but on a slight crooked landing off comes the ball cup.... some say they have no issues and thats great but this is deff a problem they need to clear up on this buggy !!!! what is everyone using again for the replacement of these popoff cups LOL
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:32 PM   #2320
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I'm using ae studs with jconcepts ball cups, when they are new they dont pop off even on the worst landing.
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Well first time out with the Rango this weekend at the toys for tots race in Columbus.... car was not bad but they deff. need more front bias im moving lipo forward.. tons of rear bight but buggy just loves to jump nose high and does not arc enough... was on a Tq pace and POP of comes a ball cup on a very slight landing .. I could not finish a Qualifier or the main because of these damn ballcups... buggy was never on its top but on a slight crooked landing off comes the ball cup.... some say they have no issues and thats great but this is deff a problem they need to clear up on this buggy !!!! what is everyone using again for the replacement of these popoff cups LOL
I heard the rumors flying around about the ball cups, while I built my kit, I grabbed one of the two trees that the cups came on, and flexed it back in forth, trying to snap it. After three bends back and forth it broke, so I boiled it (like you would boil eggs) and the cups, and did the flex thing after wards, and it took a loooong time, and it still wouldn't break cleanly, and haven't had a "pop" yet after 10 or so packs, and plenty of durability tests. I will say they could have used a little smaller hex for the broach on the studs..
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I heard the rumors flying around about the ball cups, while I built my kit, I grabbed one of the two trees that the cups came on, and flexed it back in forth, trying to snap it. After three bends back and forth it broke, so I boiled it (like you would boil eggs) and the cups, and did the flex thing after wards, and it took a loooong time, and it still wouldn't break cleanly, and haven't had a "pop" yet after 10 or so packs, and plenty of durability tests. I will say they could have used a little smaller hex for the broach on the studs..
I will give that a try hopefully will cure this issue !!! agreed on the hex size also
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Thanks Flame i will give that a shot !!
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I still haven't popped a stock HD ball cup off even after a couple of big tumbles and misjudging an off camber triple jump several times....... I have 25 packs through my car with no issues with them at all.

I keep reitterating this because I dont want prospective 210 buyers being discouraged that they HAVE to buy different ball cups and studs when there are plenty of people on here that have not had ANY problems with them. I've popped my share on my Tamiya and my Kyosho cars and its not uncommon to sometimes have problems even with new ball cups (I've even had Kyosho and Tamiya ones pop off while adjusting when new and tight).

My ballcups snap on as well as any other ball cups that I've installed on other cars. They do require a little more forethought when building them though....they are very tight to thread on and need to be worked back and forth (in and out) while threading them (basically tapping them out) so that they screw in and out more freely. Thread them completely in until they stop in the ball cup and work it in and out a few times until it feels easier to do. If you just thread them in and leave them to adjust after they are installed on the car, THEY WILL POP OFF while trying to adjust them. Doing them the way I did, I had no problem adjusting them after install and still dont. You may even put a little black grease or vaseline on the threads before threading them to try and smooth them out as well.

One other thing is...DO NOT use a driver through the hole in the end of the ball cup to use as a "T" wrench when building them. With as a tight as the threads are, I do believe that there is a very good possibility that the "cup" will get slightly stretched and elongated/deformed causing it not to fit on the ball properly and making it very easy for them to pop off in a crash.

These are my build tips that worked for me....hopefully they will work for the next guy.
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I still haven't popped a stock HD ball cup off even after a couple of big tumbles and misjudging an off camber triple jump several times....... I have 25 packs through my car with no issues with them at all.

I keep reitterating this because I dont want prospective 210 buyers being discouraged that they HAVE to buy different ball cups and studs when there are plenty of people on here that have not had ANY problems with them. I've popped my share on my Tamiya and my Kyosho cars and its not uncommon to sometimes have problems even with new ball cups (I've even had Kyosho and Tamiya ones pop off while adjusting when new and tight).

My ballcups snap on as well as any other ball cups that I've installed on other cars. They do require a little more forethought when building them though....they are very tight to thread on and need to be worked back and forth (in and out) while threading them (basically tapping them out) so that they screw in and out more freely. If you just thread them in and leave them to adjust after they are installed on the car, THEY WILL POP OFF while trying to adjust them. Doing them the way I did, I had no problem adjusting them after install and still dont. You may even put a little black grease or vaseline on the threads before threading them to try and smooth them out as well.

One other thing is...DO NOT use a driver through the hole in the end of the ball cup to use as a "T" wrench when building them. With as a tight as the threads are, I do believe that there is a very good possibility that the "cup" will get slightly stretched and elongated/deformed causing it not to fit on the ball properly and making it very easy for them to pop off in a crash.

These are my build tips that worked for me....maybe they will work for the next guy.
I put ball studs in with hex wrench and actually opened up the first 2 mm of the ball stud with a taper bit so the turnbuckle would start easy and not stretch the material.. added wax to the threads and went in very nice and smooth and adjust great on the car ... but they still pop off... this is a very minor issue for a car that builds and drives great but when your in a race and this causes DNF for the person its a issue... this is just my experience but hopefully not everyone that has one will have this problem ...A plus car though
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