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Old 11-07-2016, 12:17 PM   #18571
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I agree, I am not giving up on the 1/10 yet. The v5 was on rails last time I raced, the desc210 and desc10 put me on podium most of the races I go with them and the 210v3 was an awesome buggy the whole 2 months I owned. Im just done with 1/8. Now lets see if they come up with a new 2wd bug.
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+1 curious if they do. If they are going to really run with getting TD up and running as it should be again, I'd say do it right. Take the suggestions of people who have ran the vehicles and run with that. No half-a$$ing.
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Old 11-07-2016, 03:17 PM   #18573
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I agree, I am not giving up on the 1/10 yet. The v5 was on rails last time I raced, the desc210 and desc10 put me on podium most of the races I go with them and the 210v3 was an awesome buggy the whole 2 months I owned. Im just done with 1/8. Now lets see if they come up with a new 2wd bug.
I kind up ended up in this position by accident. If I hadn't had some setup issues with the 210V3, I wouldn't have been on here paying attention. I've got all there 1/10 except the F, which I have no need for yet. So yeah I'll run them because I have them. But yeah I think I hijacked this thread enough. I need to move over to the DESC210R thread as that's the next truck I'm trying to dial in.
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Old 11-15-2016, 04:47 PM   #18574
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Gents,

Just to step away from the TD issues discussion, I have just made my own narrow chassis conversion. similar to the exotec one but to be done with a YZ-2 body. Thoughts?


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Old 11-15-2016, 07:44 PM   #18575
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Looking good asalas. If you're looking for anyone to test them, let me know. I can print out a set at work. Also, what are you using for the battery holder?
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I am happy to send you the file Kremzeek. I do not have any sort of commercial intentions, I drew it just for fun and the sake of experimenting. what software do you use? I used sketch up and exported it to STL for 3d printing. I am new to this 3d printing thing, can I upload it into shapeways and just share it?

I am getting a carbon fiber battery holder. A local Melbourne guy (Bezerk) is doing it.

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Old 11-15-2016, 10:31 PM   #18577
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Shapeways would be good for people that don't have their own 3D printers. Something like thingiverse.com would work for those that just need the STL file. Even something as simple as Dropbox would be okay.
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Looks fantastic. I would love to have a 3D printer to play with. I am interested if someone could print me up one once it's test fit. How much you think?
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One thing that concerns me is the lack of mounting points along the chassis. Given, the side pods probably don't add a lot of strength to the aluminum chassis but they must have some impact on the flex. It might be good to add one or two screws along the area highlighted in red in the picture below.

I added a couple of circles showing existing screw holes that could probably be used. It might be good to use the blue one as the forward battery brace mounting point instead of making new ones. This does limit how far forward you can run the battery but without a lay down gear box, I don't think there's a real reason to run one that far forward.

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Old 11-16-2016, 01:09 PM   #18580
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One thing that concerns me is the lack of mounting points along the chassis. Given, the side pods probably don't add a lot of strength to the aluminum chassis but they must have some impact on the flex. It might be good to add one or two screws along the area highlighted in red in the picture below.

I added a couple of circles showing existing screw holes that could probably be used. It might be good to use the blue one as the forward battery brace mounting point instead of making new ones. This does limit how far forward you can run the battery but without a lay down gear box, I don't think there's a real reason to run one that far forward.

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You are probably right, I can quickly draw your suggestion and send you both files a bit later(I'm on the phone in the train going to work now ).

I'll do testing with my prototype as is. The Guy I'm using for printing must have already done it. I would do more printing but my budget (wife complaining about RC money) is not high.

WallyRC, the printing of the 2 side pods costed me 61 AUD, maybe under 50USD? I the carbon battery holder is gonna cost me about 20AUD, I just asked this guy to cut the carbon without even asking for a price. Add I said, I'm not really after commercialising this, so I'm happy to share my design.

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Old 11-18-2016, 01:43 PM   #18581
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One thing that concerns me is the lack of mounting points along the chassis. Given, the side pods probably don't add a lot of strength to the aluminum chassis but they must have some impact on the flex. It might be good to add one or two screws along the area highlighted in red in the picture below.

I added a couple of circles showing existing screw holes that could probably be used. It might be good to use the blue one as the forward battery brace mounting point instead of making new ones. This does limit how far forward you can run the battery but without a lay down gear box, I don't think there's a real reason to run one that far forward.

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Old 11-19-2016, 10:12 PM   #18582
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Hi guys, I have a problem with dex210. Use the dex track of AstroTurf, oil ammo behind 35 black springs, 40 front and black springs, oil diff 2000, schumacher Minipin tires, 4-speed transmission.
Motor Lipotech 6,5T.
My car when I leave the gas in the curve tends to lose rear grip and go into oversteer.

What can I do?
tougher front springs?
Mounted 3-speed?

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Old 11-20-2016, 06:58 AM   #18583
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Hi guys, I have a problem with dex210. Use the dex track of AstroTurf, oil ammo behind 35 black springs, 40 front and black springs, oil diff 2000, schumacher Minipin tires, 4-speed transmission.
Motor Lipotech 6,5T.
My car when I leave the gas in the curve tends to lose rear grip and go into oversteer.

What can I do?
tougher front springs?
Mounted 3-speed?
I am assuming mid motor as well? Most people do run tougher front springs.

The thin diff fluid may also be aiding the over rotation. Consider 3 or 5.

Stop forward weight transfer, so tougher front springs, and move the battery pack towards the rear. Forward weight really helps this car turn, but sometimes more traction is just what is needed. In 3 gear rear motor outside I run the battery in the rear. The car is very sensitive to weight placement. If you have a weight in the front of the car, possibly under the servo, consider removing it. Also under weight transfer thinking, raise the rear rid height a little can be tried.

Reduce front grip, consider Schumacher stagger rib tires or a ribbed tire as they have less grip than mini pin.

Increase rear grip, ensure you have negative camber and consider increasing the rear toe in.

Any mini pins good for turf? Maybe the rear tire just gets no grip and you need spikes? What are othepeople using?

I have never ran on turf. These are just ideas to try that may work.
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Hi guys, I have a problem with dex210. Use the dex track of AstroTurf, oil ammo behind 35 black springs, 40 front and black springs, oil diff 2000, schumacher Minipin tires, 4-speed transmission.
Motor Lipotech 6,5T.
My car when I leave the gas in the curve tends to lose rear grip and go into oversteer.

What can I do?
tougher front springs?
Mounted 3-speed?
Three gear I would go to for sure.
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Old 11-20-2016, 12:35 PM   #18585
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My front tires are cut stagger low profile, the rear are the mini pin.
My problem comes when I take off the gas to turn the curve, if it around the bend with a bit of gas the car runs perfectly.
Having said that I think the diff works well? If I use oil 3000 or 5000 the situation should worsen?
I do not have weights in the servant and I can not move the battery, I have a lipo classic length.
The toe.in is 3 .
I thought of using front springs purple and use MM3, so the weight is not on the front when I take off the gas?
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