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Old 09-25-2009, 10:03 PM
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I doubt it will effect performance but just curious if there will be any issues soldering the two together?Im soldering extra wire from my esc to motor,12gwg on esc and 14 to the motor.
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what kind of speedo?
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novak havoc 3s sorry i wrote it down wrong,14guage coming off the speedo and adding 12 gauge to make the wire reach the motor,only 3 inches or so
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seeing as you are going bigger i dont think i would hurt anything at all, just dont go smaller
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Originally Posted by mxracer458
novak havoc 3s sorry i wrote it down wrong,14guage coming off the speedo and adding 12 gauge to make the wire reach the motor,only 3 inches or so
What gauge was on the system from the factory?
Shouldn't be too much of an issue either way but it's safer to go with a thicker wire then factory recommends instead of thinner.

Neither is a fantastic idea though so if you can scrounge up some more of one or the other you should prob do it all in one piece.

Plus that's just one more joint which can be a potential weak spot and adds a tiny bit more resistance.

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The amount of power we are putting through, the difference between a 12AWG and a 14AWG is negligible...

14 AWG is still beefy enough for a 4S LiPo discharging at 50C.

You'd be amazed how much current a #30 (30AWG) wire can carry before it pops like a fuse!

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Originally Posted by tom_chang79
The amount of power we are putting through, the difference between a 12AWG and a 14AWG is negligible...

14 AWG is still beefy enough for a 4S LiPo discharging at 50C.

You'd be amazed how much current a #30 (30AWG) wire can carry before it pops like a fuse!

That's why I said shouldn't matter much either way. But guessing hte factory chooses one thickness over another is all my point was.

Never heard of 30 AWG used in an R/C app before. Sure would make for clean installs.
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No, no, I wasn't implying to use 30AWG wires, just trying to make people realize how much current they can carry before they pop.

I'd safely bet they can carry about 5 to 10A before they pop...

Just look at pop fuses... Fuses are basically designed to have the most minimal amount of conductor its rated current... Once you get to that rated current or over, it pops...



12AWG are awesome though. Especially multistranded. Dean's wet noodles uses over 3000 strands of copper to make a 12AWG stranded wire... Wet noodles from Deans are probably the best wire out there. It can handle a ton of current and flex like a noodle...
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Originally Posted by tom_chang79
No, no, I wasn't implying to use 30AWG wires, just trying to make people realize how much current they can carry before they pop.

I'd safely bet they can carry about 5 to 10A before they pop...

Just look at pop fuses... Fuses are basically designed to have the most minimal amount of conductor its rated current... Once you get to that rated current or over, it pops...



12AWG are awesome though. Especially multistranded. Dean's wet noodles uses over 3000 strands of copper to make a 12AWG stranded wire... Wet noodles from Deans are probably the best wire out there. It can handle a ton of current and flex like a noodle...
Ok, well that's good to know. Don't use 30AWG when I wire up my 1/8 scale.

I too love Deans anything. Wire, plugs, ...... guess that's it. But those two things are great.
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just unsolder from the bottom of the board on the havoc and start ovrr less weak links in the system of stuff to go bad
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Originally Posted by tom_chang79
No, no, I wasn't implying to use 30AWG wires, just trying to make people realize how much current they can carry before they pop.

I'd safely bet they can carry about 5 to 10A before they pop...

Would you like to make that bet ?
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Wanna side bet on how much voltage drop you will have just before poping? Or how much heat is generated?

There is more to proper wiring than just survivability of the wire.

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Don't touch the wire as it starts to glow either, would hate see anyone get hurt
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