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Old 08-13-2009, 11:38 AM   #31
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My NeuEnergy 5s 3300 packs are 140mm long and no taller than a 4s 5000 pack. I actually like the layout, I just wish the battery tray were a bit longer.

This might be a good car to try out for the indoor season since I typically won't need to run larger than a 3300 pack.
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My NeuEnergy 5s 3300 packs are 140mm long and no taller than a 4s 5000 pack. I actually like the layout, I just wish the battery tray were a bit longer.

This might be a good car to try out for the indoor season since I typically won't need to run larger than a 3300 pack.
That is the problem, the high capacity cells (4300, 5500, 6500) are all 150+mm. Both my Neu 4300's and 5500's are 168mm long. I see the new Hyperion G3 cells are short too, until you hit the useful capacity size for 4S operation.
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My SMC 4s 5400 packs are 144mm long. Gonna have to break out the dremel out!
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Old 08-13-2009, 12:15 PM   #34
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My SMC 4s 5400 packs are 144mm long. Gonna have to break out the dremel out!
lol.

wrrrrrrr (dremel sound)... BOOM!
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Wouldn't be the first time I've had to call on it's duties!
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Old 08-13-2009, 01:00 PM   #36
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Well thats the problem. A 2000'sh motor spins too many rpms for 5s let alone 6s. Im not trying to be rude here but you are giving out false info.
As I said the CC/Neu on 4s was already difficult to control. The Neu 1515 is 1700kv I believe and on5s was even less controllable. I'm talking about motors powered to in the mid 30k rpms. Calculate the CCNeu and Neu motors I just mentioned to check rpms. That has been my experience and thepeople I know and seen with lower kv motors. You should read more carefully what the person wrot before saying they are wrong. I agree it is more efficient but from my experience too torquey since the same high voltage low kv setups run 15lb MTs.
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I've run the 2000ish kV motors in 4s, 5s, and 6s and they get progressively harder to control.
Actually I read it just fine thanks...
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Thats just retail...


the street price should be around 299 to 329..
why does the HB website show it $200 more than the Nitro then? Is that not retail for the D8?
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As I said the CC/Neu on 4s was already difficult to control. The Neu 1515 is 1700kv I believe and on5s was even less controllable. I'm talking about motors powered to in the mid 30k rpms. Calculate the CCNeu and Neu motors I just mentioned to check rpms. That has been my experience and thepeople I know and seen with lower kv motors. You should read more carefully what the person wrot before saying they are wrong. I agree it is more efficient but from my experience too torquey since the same high voltage low kv setups run 15lb MTs.
Read RBMikes post.
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As I said the CC/Neu on 4s was already difficult to control. The Neu 1515 is 1700kv I believe and on5s was even less controllable.
That's a truggy motor.

[/quote]That has been my experience and thepeople I know and seen with lower kv motors. You should read more carefully what the person wrot before saying they are wrong. I agree it is more efficient but from my experience too torquey since the same high voltage low kv setups run 15lb MTs.[/quote]

I've done both & your wrong.

My 6s 1400 is WAY more controlable than a 4S/2200 Castle new in a buggy. I addition I burn less than 1000mA in a 5 minute heat with a 2 minute warm up.

My actual experiance not something I heard or saw from someone elses experiance.

Sorry about the OT guys.
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Actually I read it just fine thanks...
That was in response to another persons statement that 2200kv on higher voltage is harder to control. I was agreeing also stating that low kv on higher voltage is hard to control. You seemed to have ignored the parts where I said the CCNeu on 4s and Neu on 5s, which are 32krpm and 30krpm respectively, were also very hard to control.

DG - I did see RB's post about his buggy. My direct experience has been different. From what I've experienced, lower kv higher setups are difficult to control due to the higher torque of lower kv motors. Perhaps because I like to go full when on straights which lifts the front more easily with lower kv.

RB - those are my direct experiences also. I drove the neu. Your experience is no more valid than another persons. Perhaps our driving styles differ enough to affect the behavior. But my direct experience is otherwise.

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"My 6s 1400 is WAY more controlable than a 4S/2200 Castle new in a buggy. I addition I burn less than 1000mA in a 5 minute heat with a 2 minute warm up."

What motor/packs are you running? Are you happy with the MMM? What kind track? 20 min runtime must be no problem.
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why does the HB website show it $200 more than the Nitro then? Is that not retail for the D8?
The current price on the site is full retail.
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This is exactly what I've been looking for, as long as the balance is good [which I can't imagine HB releasing a buggy with less than sufficient balance], an aftermarket company quickly comes out with a better looking body [Can't stand those '57 chevy/batmobile fins], and follows in the footsteps of the D8 in terms of price and performance. I just can't spend $1,500 on a buggy. That's a new chassis for my birel.

I look forward to hearing reviews/comparisons of this buggy and the current e-buggy offerings.
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Yesterday I spoke to a good friend who drove the VE8 and he told me that the car's balance is fine and to expect good things from it!
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