For a 1/8th scale conversion is it worth using 3S or 4S Lipo over 2S?
#17
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In general 10th scale can run 30 mins with hard driving on a 8000 mah battery. If you want long run times and low cost on the power system 10th scale is the ticket. A slash or some other "basher" worthy truck that is tuff as nails can hold up pretty well.
In general 8th scale takes twice the battery in weight and cost as 10th scale. No it is not an exact cost\weight but a good ballpark guide.
I would not run 8th scale on less then 4s in my opinion. And if you want to race you might want to settle on 4s if you are running roar events.
You can either buy a 4s pack or run 2 - 2s packs to get to the 14.8 volt.
I would also look at 20C 5000 mah as the min raiting for the batteries for 1/8th. For most people that seems to get from 13-18 mins depending on driving and setups.
Some of the conversion threads have great info that you might want to research if you are doing 1/8th scale. It is failry new and prone to more headaches for some people.
In general 8th scale takes twice the battery in weight and cost as 10th scale. No it is not an exact cost\weight but a good ballpark guide.
I would not run 8th scale on less then 4s in my opinion. And if you want to race you might want to settle on 4s if you are running roar events.
You can either buy a 4s pack or run 2 - 2s packs to get to the 14.8 volt.
I would also look at 20C 5000 mah as the min raiting for the batteries for 1/8th. For most people that seems to get from 13-18 mins depending on driving and setups.
Some of the conversion threads have great info that you might want to research if you are doing 1/8th scale. It is failry new and prone to more headaches for some people.
#18
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Also, you need to decide which battery, and which car, as well as which conversion. Some conversions are designed with two 1/10th(2S) batteries in mind. Other conversions, use a single 4S battery.
What car are you planning to use? Have you picked a conversion, or are you still hunting?
#19
The batteries Im using are 6500mah 30c 2S. I want to do a saddle configuration with two of them. Whats my best bet
#20
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If I were you, I'd get either the Caster or the Losi 8ight. The caster should work with nearly any 2S packs, there's no conversion, you just pick a brushless system and go with it. The losi will fit two 2S packs on their side, and since the 8ight's center diff is to one side, it accommodates the single battery tray very well.
Do you have a brand preference at all? Is there an 8th scale buggy or truggy you like the looks of, or have seen turn fast laps at your local track?
#23
Well in order to estimate my runtime put it this way, With a Novak GTB / velociti 6.5R brushless and that battery I get a 35minute runtime in a rustler xvl 18/83, and Im only on my 4th cycle of the battery. So what do you think is the best configuration to stay within 30min range?
#24
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Well in order to estimate my runtime put it this way, With a Novak GTB / velociti 6.5R brushless and that battery I get a 35minute runtime in a rustler xvl 18/83, and Im only on my 4th cycle of the battery. So what do you think is the best configuration to stay within 30min range?
#25
I ran a pair of SMC CMAXX 5200's (4S total) on a medusa 2000kv mugen/caster conversion using an 80amp Hobbywing esc and got 25min of runtime. I TQ'd and took 2nd, so I wasn't slow on a 200x100 track.
I feel confident I could make 20min main with this setup. (I wanted to gear up one tooth)
To go 30mins you would need at least 50% more battery, so 5200 + 50%= 7800mah.
Therefore an 8000mah 4S pack would do with a small margin of error.
SMC is coming out with a 8600 or 9000 4S pack soon. That will be the ticket.
I feel confident I could make 20min main with this setup. (I wanted to gear up one tooth)
To go 30mins you would need at least 50% more battery, so 5200 + 50%= 7800mah.
Therefore an 8000mah 4S pack would do with a small margin of error.
SMC is coming out with a 8600 or 9000 4S pack soon. That will be the ticket.
#26
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I ran a pair of SMC CMAXX 5200's (4S total) on a medusa 2000kv mugen/caster conversion using an 80amp Hobbywing esc and got 25min of runtime. I TQ'd and took 2nd, so I wasn't slow on a 200x100 track.
I feel confident I could make 20min main with this setup. (I wanted to gear up one tooth)
To go 30mins you would need at least 50% more battery, so 5200 + 50%= 7800mah.
Therefore an 8000mah 4S pack would do with a small margin of error.
SMC is coming out with a 8600 or 9000 4S pack soon. That will be the ticket.
I feel confident I could make 20min main with this setup. (I wanted to gear up one tooth)
To go 30mins you would need at least 50% more battery, so 5200 + 50%= 7800mah.
Therefore an 8000mah 4S pack would do with a small margin of error.
SMC is coming out with a 8600 or 9000 4S pack soon. That will be the ticket.
#27
Lipo 8000HV 4S2P 14.8V Battery Pack
More Information
# 8000mah Capacity
# 14.8 Volts
# 44mm X 137mm X 50mm
# 20C Constant(160 amps)
# 30C Sustained(240 amps)
# 50C Burst(400 amps)
# 725 grams
One LB is 454 grams...... It's 1/8th scale... If you want to go hang for 30 mins with the nitro's, you have to carry around an extra 1/3LB or so... It's not like dragging a lead acid car battery around.
#28
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From Maxamps site:
Lipo 8000HV 4S2P 14.8V Battery Pack
More Information
# 8000mah Capacity
# 14.8 Volts
# 44mm X 137mm X 50mm
# 20C Constant(160 amps)
# 30C Sustained(240 amps)
# 50C Burst(400 amps)
# 725 grams
One LB is 454 grams...... It's 1/8th scale... If you want to go hang for 30 mins with the nitro's, you have to carry around an extra 1/3LB or so... It's not like dragging a lead acid car battery around.
Lipo 8000HV 4S2P 14.8V Battery Pack
More Information
# 8000mah Capacity
# 14.8 Volts
# 44mm X 137mm X 50mm
# 20C Constant(160 amps)
# 30C Sustained(240 amps)
# 50C Burst(400 amps)
# 725 grams
One LB is 454 grams...... It's 1/8th scale... If you want to go hang for 30 mins with the nitro's, you have to carry around an extra 1/3LB or so... It's not like dragging a lead acid car battery around.
Also, I tried to vist the site in your sig, and this is what I got:
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Is the site down?
#29
Yeah, our site is down... The member hosting our site moved to another province and the site was lost. I'm currently rebuilding it... sorry.
A battery swap is what I would do personally, but it is possible to run the whole 30 with batteries that are out there now.
A battery swap is what I would do personally, but it is possible to run the whole 30 with batteries that are out there now.