Can You Identify My RC Car
#1
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Can You Identify My RC Car
Ok guys I recently got this rc car in a trade and since i dont know anything about the car or any rc cars really i will put it up to you guys for help. The car says xxx-t graphite on nearly every surface of the car but i dont know if that is right?
It has a Novak Dually esc and a Novak XXL receiver, it also has a JR XR3 radio control which from what i can find online didnt come with the team losi xxx-t, I dont know if the motor is brushless or even what brand motor it has because i have not dug into it yet to check it out and clean it.
It also seems to say graphite on all of the parts which from what i read is aftermarket? also it seems to have alot of anadized and chrome pieces on it which i dont know if that is stock either and the shocks are metal or aluminum is that normal?
Sorry for all of the questions but I dont know anything about he car so feel free to answer on here or send me a private message.
It has a Novak Dually esc and a Novak XXL receiver, it also has a JR XR3 radio control which from what i can find online didnt come with the team losi xxx-t, I dont know if the motor is brushless or even what brand motor it has because i have not dug into it yet to check it out and clean it.
It also seems to say graphite on all of the parts which from what i read is aftermarket? also it seems to have alot of anadized and chrome pieces on it which i dont know if that is stock either and the shocks are metal or aluminum is that normal?
Sorry for all of the questions but I dont know anything about he car so feel free to answer on here or send me a private message.
#3
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are the graphite and anadized parts stock
also are the electronics stock?
also are the electronics stock?
#4
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Yep, a XXX-T of which vintage I'm not sure. One thing to check is the transmission housing color, they had a Generation II tranny that is a gray color, if it's black it's a original XXX tranny. The Gen II is from a Matt Francis kit, there is a MF and a MF2, at least the MF2 had the gray, not sure about the original MF. They went back to the original for the latest CR version. Parts for all are available.
Its a brushed motor I believe, brushless have at least 3 wires to the motor.
The graphite parts can be either an option, or came with a MF2, again I'm not sure about the first MF. Mostly interchangable parts except for the tranny, that's why I mentioned it.
Have fun!
Dave
Its a brushed motor I believe, brushless have at least 3 wires to the motor.
The graphite parts can be either an option, or came with a MF2, again I'm not sure about the first MF. Mostly interchangable parts except for the tranny, that's why I mentioned it.
Have fun!
Dave
#5
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thanks guys
i am really having fun with this thing already and i cant wait to get used to it so i can upgrade it lol
oh also i didnt get an answer for one question
is the JR XR3 and the novaks i mentioned a stock thing?
i am really having fun with this thing already and i cant wait to get used to it so i can upgrade it lol
oh also i didnt get an answer for one question
is the JR XR3 and the novaks i mentioned a stock thing?
#6
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I think the anodized are options, not positive. The shock bodies are aluminum and stock.
The electrics are sport level Novaks, good stuff generally unless you are serious racing or using a very hot motor. Say something below 12 turns. Novak makes more capable speed controls if needed, as well as other companies.
The radio is a JR, again a very good start. Can't tell about the steering servo, faster ones are possibly available, again mainly for serious racing.
Dave
The electrics are sport level Novaks, good stuff generally unless you are serious racing or using a very hot motor. Say something below 12 turns. Novak makes more capable speed controls if needed, as well as other companies.
The radio is a JR, again a very good start. Can't tell about the steering servo, faster ones are possibly available, again mainly for serious racing.
Dave
#8
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The best thing to do is find a local hobby shop and make some friends. One thing to watch out for is the brushed motor wear. Most hobby shops should be able to recut your commutator (on a com lathe) for a few bucks, another few for new brushes and you are basically back to new motor speed. Should be able to get several com cuts on a motor.
For new, iIf you are not racing ask for a budget modified motor with lower timing, say around 17 to 20 turns. "Stock" motors have 27 turns and 24 degrees of timing. The timing advance wears the motor faster and draws down the battery faster. Drop the timing and lower the turns get good speed, better motor and battery life. Lower turns is faster, so is more timing, at the expense of battery and motor, don't overdo either.
For new, iIf you are not racing ask for a budget modified motor with lower timing, say around 17 to 20 turns. "Stock" motors have 27 turns and 24 degrees of timing. The timing advance wears the motor faster and draws down the battery faster. Drop the timing and lower the turns get good speed, better motor and battery life. Lower turns is faster, so is more timing, at the expense of battery and motor, don't overdo either.
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( If the arms out by the wheels have 2 sets of holes it is a MF2. )
im not sure what that means exactly and also did the brushed motor come on these trucks or is that just something the guy did?
also can you guys recommend and decent esc that has reverse that i can just replace this one with because i dont plan to race it i just like to mess around my driveway and am thinking of building a few little ramps
im not sure what that means exactly and also did the brushed motor come on these trucks or is that just something the guy did?
also can you guys recommend and decent esc that has reverse that i can just replace this one with because i dont plan to race it i just like to mess around my driveway and am thinking of building a few little ramps
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would i need a new esc and batteries to run a brushless?
also is the 6 cell 2400 pack sufficient?
also is the 6 cell 2400 pack sufficient?
#12
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Brushless is definitely a new esc. Although they generally will run a brushed motor, but why would you if you invest in a brushless esc to begin with, except possibly to fit in a brushed racing class. They are more expensive than brushed, but no maintenance.
Batteries depend on motor, the hotter brushless setups are crazy fast, but only with enough battery.
Where you are now better batteries will give you mainly more run time.
Dave
Batteries depend on motor, the hotter brushless setups are crazy fast, but only with enough battery.
Where you are now better batteries will give you mainly more run time.
Dave
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how big of batteries can i run with this setup without frying stuff
#14
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Depends on what you mean by big. If you stick with 6 cells, then the mA rating can be anything, it only impacts run time for the most part. 4200s for example would be no problem. Note the 4200s do have lower resistance so they are a little punchier, but that doesn't burn stuff up, at least not directly. Can happen if you use too hot of a motor due to current draw, that's why I suggest staying above 12 turns.
Stuff gets immediatly fried when you have too much voltage, not exactly sure about this esc, but generally you shouldn't go past 7 cells. Or 2s 7.4 volt Li-pos, the new style of battery. Note Li-pos require different chargers and knowledge, or they can explode.
Dave
Stuff gets immediatly fried when you have too much voltage, not exactly sure about this esc, but generally you shouldn't go past 7 cells. Or 2s 7.4 volt Li-pos, the new style of battery. Note Li-pos require different chargers and knowledge, or they can explode.
Dave
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I would really like to have reverse, can any of you guys tell me what a good esc with reverse would be and also would i lose speed or power if i change my esc