Looking at Truggies
#1
Looking at Truggies
Ok, I believe I am now finally convinced that I would like to get a truggy. I'm interested in people's expierience with them. Durability and adjustability. Also how easy is it to wrench on. I'm really not interested in the I got it so its great comment... I want to hear some objective strengths and weakness type of comments.
The kits I am considering in no particular order are the Losi 8T, Kyosho STR kit (not rtr), the Mugen and Xray.
The truggy will be raced at a couple of different tracks. One is tight, technical and loose. The other is larger, a little less technical and higher bite.
Thanks
The kits I am considering in no particular order are the Losi 8T, Kyosho STR kit (not rtr), the Mugen and Xray.
The truggy will be raced at a couple of different tracks. One is tight, technical and loose. The other is larger, a little less technical and higher bite.
Thanks
#2
Up until the Losi hit I would say the best bang for the buck in truggy is the mugen MBX5T standard kit. It's killer on the track and only needs a one piece motor mount to make it plenty good to race. Since the shell covers the towers there is no real need for the prospec machined units and most people I know who got the prospec are running the plastic braces anyway. If you shop it can be had for around $440.00 to your door and a one piece mount can be had off ebay for less than $25.00, everything else you need is in the box.
I don't know much about the Losi truck except it's kicking major YKW most everywhere it goes, but if it's like the buggy, it's going to be a real handful to drive. I know 2 people who are pretty fast who grabbed a losi buggy when it first hit and have since gone back to mugen. They loved the Losi acceleration and jumping, but didn't care for it's unforgiving nature.
The CEN matrix TR is also making some serious waves, but at present they are still looking for the ideal diff for their truggy. It is my understanding that the factory guys are currently testing a couple different diffs to determine which will wind up being included in future kits. The current diffs with the Machine's r/c hobbies cross pin kit seem to be working very well, and from what I've heard it's on par handling wise with the mugen.
Unless Kyosho has address their diff issues with the ST-R I'd think long and hard about that one.
I don't know much about the Losi truck except it's kicking major YKW most everywhere it goes, but if it's like the buggy, it's going to be a real handful to drive. I know 2 people who are pretty fast who grabbed a losi buggy when it first hit and have since gone back to mugen. They loved the Losi acceleration and jumping, but didn't care for it's unforgiving nature.
The CEN matrix TR is also making some serious waves, but at present they are still looking for the ideal diff for their truggy. It is my understanding that the factory guys are currently testing a couple different diffs to determine which will wind up being included in future kits. The current diffs with the Machine's r/c hobbies cross pin kit seem to be working very well, and from what I've heard it's on par handling wise with the mugen.
Unless Kyosho has address their diff issues with the ST-R I'd think long and hard about that one.
#3
Thanks, I read in the magazine buggy shootout that 3 different drivers all said its not for everyone. I have an opportunity to get a new Losi 8T race roller very cheaply or a Kyosho ST-R. I want to get as much info as I can. Do you have a truggy?
#4
Go MBX5T mugen all the way
#5
Do you have a Mugen?
#6
Warhawk1:
Well I'm going to add another old faithful for ya too. The Jammin CRT Pro!
I raced one last season and it was completely stock. The only option part I used was a S bend air filter tube.I only used it for racing, most tracks were rough and tumble. I crashed it very hard many times over long 35' quads, bmx style track jumps. I raced it on blue groove and loamy tracks as well. Only changes that were made was tires for the track surface.
I am a good driver but I do take chances to win. The Jammin CRT Pro was great and I did not break a single part over a full race season ( club racing and 4 big Trophy races). I bought a whole bunch of extra parts to have as spares if needed and they were never used.
Yes, its a bit heavier than the Mugen, Losi, and STR and has a large ferris wheel spur 62T (which actually helps acceleration and braking ability), and sometimes weight is to an advantage as well.
I sold it to a fellow after 4 gallons of use, it was still very tight, for a deal I couldn't refuse. In my books it was the most responsive, tough off road vehicle I have ever raced. I have been racing for 17 years. If I decide to buy another truggy it is at the top of my list still, even though I'd like to try another manufacturer because of curiosity.
Hope that helps ya ....
Well I'm going to add another old faithful for ya too. The Jammin CRT Pro!
I raced one last season and it was completely stock. The only option part I used was a S bend air filter tube.I only used it for racing, most tracks were rough and tumble. I crashed it very hard many times over long 35' quads, bmx style track jumps. I raced it on blue groove and loamy tracks as well. Only changes that were made was tires for the track surface.
I am a good driver but I do take chances to win. The Jammin CRT Pro was great and I did not break a single part over a full race season ( club racing and 4 big Trophy races). I bought a whole bunch of extra parts to have as spares if needed and they were never used.
Yes, its a bit heavier than the Mugen, Losi, and STR and has a large ferris wheel spur 62T (which actually helps acceleration and braking ability), and sometimes weight is to an advantage as well.
I sold it to a fellow after 4 gallons of use, it was still very tight, for a deal I couldn't refuse. In my books it was the most responsive, tough off road vehicle I have ever raced. I have been racing for 17 years. If I decide to buy another truggy it is at the top of my list still, even though I'd like to try another manufacturer because of curiosity.
Hope that helps ya ....
#7
Originally Posted by Warhawk 1
...Do you have a truggy?
#8
Tech Adept
buy a Mugen MBX5T Prospec... best one, no upgrades needed... etc... you'll understand once you owne it.
#9
I was considering the Ofna but someone I spoke with said parts availability could be a serious issue. I also heard the losi 8 buggy was fast but kind of twitchy and more challenging to be consistenly fast. I would assume the Truggy would be the same. I'm worried about parts for the Mugen Prospec as well. Kyosho and Losi seem to have the best parts availability. I'm going to download all the info I can on each and do a point by point comparison.
#10
yes i run a mugen, i had a ofna as my first buggy and then went to mugen and there is a ton of differences.
#11
Where do you run? and how is the parts availability? I have heard the Mugen is a nice rig.
#13
You didn't find it to be twitchy and tuff to keep planted on the straights? I am leaning toward the 8T race roller, but still haven't made up my mind.
#14
Tech Adept
iTrader: (6)
I've been running my 8ight T for the past month now, and so far it has been great... I like the way it handles, jumps, and accelerates... The steering is extremely quick, but not the point of being to much... I do find that the 8t likes to be driven hard. To me the more I push the 8t, the more it will reward me... The rear end will step out though if pushed to hard with the trigger finger... This can be calmed down with a switch to the 3a/3t rear plate. I like the point and shoot driving style that the 8t allows me to do... I am running a .21 (Nova P5X) and I find it to have plenty of power to push the 8t...
The downside to the 8t... The clutch shoes wear quick, the composites may last a half gallon... Mine made it to roughly 3/4 of a gallon, but the composites were junk, one of the springs was just starting to poke through one of the composite shoes... The aluminum shoes were just about junk as well... I have replaced the shoes with 4 King Headz 7075 shoes along with new Losi silver springs... All is fine now, and it has improved the bottom end response...
I would recommend the 8t. The T may have a lot of plastic parts, but it has been very durable... I have yet to break anything... And I have taken a few pretty good hits...
The downside to the 8t... The clutch shoes wear quick, the composites may last a half gallon... Mine made it to roughly 3/4 of a gallon, but the composites were junk, one of the springs was just starting to poke through one of the composite shoes... The aluminum shoes were just about junk as well... I have replaced the shoes with 4 King Headz 7075 shoes along with new Losi silver springs... All is fine now, and it has improved the bottom end response...
I would recommend the 8t. The T may have a lot of plastic parts, but it has been very durable... I have yet to break anything... And I have taken a few pretty good hits...
#15
Hey guys, just remember that when you say Ofna, it's very Vague. Ofna is not a manufacturer, they are an importer/distributor. There are quite a few different trucks from them.
And Ofna parts, in general, are some the easiest parts to get.
And Ofna parts, in general, are some the easiest parts to get.