R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric Off-Road

Many discounts and deals on RC products and parts can be found on UltimateCoupons.com.

Consider visiting BensBargains.net for great discounts on remote control products.
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-02-2007, 10:12 AM   #766
Tech Elite
 
badassrevo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Chardon, Ohio
Posts: 2,276
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by trashedmaxx View Post
Thanks for coming out doug I had a great time.

Maybe next sunday I can give you a run in 8th scale, mine should be done by then. I can honestly say that i've only seen a few 8th scales wheelie from pure torque and doug's was one of them.
Here is your answer on my 8ight doing a wheelie.
__________________
www.casterracingusa.com - Caster Racing USA
www.maxamps.com - MaxAmps Batteries
www.paintmonsterairbrushing.com - Paint Monster Airbrushing
www.BFastrc.com - Feel the Diff
badassrevo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 10:25 AM   #767
Tech Regular
 
xtremelimits285's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Hudson, FL
Posts: 261
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to xtremelimits285
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kings Kid View Post
What if you have the Torsen diff?I have the spider diff, does it work with that?
buy a losi diff an put it in ur diffs place, the 46t kyosho spur mates rite up......
or a ofna,,,,, u mite need diffrent bearings& othere lil things, but first check and see if the kyosho gear mounts up to ur guys diffs.....
u mite not need too buy another diff.....
also ask www.rc-monster.com or www.rcproductdesigns.com , they make & sell alot of brushless conversion stuff, so one mite know...
__________________
Gary Antonietti
Losi Eight T - Monster Mamba v2 - Neu 1515 1y/f - MaxAmps 3s 8000mah - Futaba 2.4GHz Tx/Rx 6EX - Futaba S9351 Servo - 17/46t Gearing
- www.rc-monster.com - www.rcproductdesigns.com - www.teknorc.com - www.rclipos.com - www.teamlosi.com - www.castlecreations.com -

Last edited by xtremelimits285; 08-02-2007 at 10:38 AM.
xtremelimits285 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 10:28 AM   #768
Tech Regular
 
xtremelimits285's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Hudson, FL
Posts: 261
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to xtremelimits285
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by badassrevo View Post
Thanks for coming out doug I had a great time.

Maybe next sunday I can give you a run in 8th scale, mine should be done by then. I can honestly say that i've only seen a few 8th scales wheelie from pure torque and doug's was one of them.Here is your answer on my 8ight doing a wheelie.
Xtremespeed
Doug just awsered ur question... Get the Neu 1512 2.5d/f
__________________
Gary Antonietti
Losi Eight T - Monster Mamba v2 - Neu 1515 1y/f - MaxAmps 3s 8000mah - Futaba 2.4GHz Tx/Rx 6EX - Futaba S9351 Servo - 17/46t Gearing
- www.rc-monster.com - www.rcproductdesigns.com - www.teknorc.com - www.rclipos.com - www.teamlosi.com - www.castlecreations.com -
xtremelimits285 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 02:06 PM   #769
Tech Initiate
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 22
Default

Thanks Gary and Doug for the replies. One quick question, which I'm sure has been discussed. What is the difference between 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5? Some are stronger at low rpm others at high rpm? I don't mind having something with a little too much power since it won't be on a track anyways. Stil needs to have great low end and top speed though.
Xtremespeed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 03:30 PM   #770
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 153
Default

The difference is the RPM of the motor. So you need to know the battery you are going to use then select the motor. I have a 1515/2.5D/F in my 8ight T with a 4S. You could get a higher KV motor (more RPM per volt) if you are running a 3S battery, or a lower KV motor if you are running a 5S. You should look at the specs for all of the motors and see what motor to buy. In the 1515 series a 1.5D is 2700 KV, a 1Y is 2200 KV, and a 2.5 (like mine) is a 1700KV. Where you get in to problems is you can only get from a 12 to a 20 tooth pinion so if you go silly with a motor you can't gear it for speed or slow it down enough with gear. I learned this out with my first motor (not my 2.5 Neu), I need a 5S to run it due to Truggy not having enough speed even with a 20 pinion and a 44 spur on 4S. I suspect the total power is about the same just the RPM is different given using the same voltage battery pack.
plumslow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 05:58 PM   #771
Tech Addict
 
lxmuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 561
Default

Happywing and I talked about the issues with the Deans not having a good enough connection. They are good connectors but I don't think that they were designed to handle the current and hard hits we give them on the track. Here is a solution that could help. Ideally they will share the current from the battery to esc, example a total of 100 amps from battery to esc would have 50 amps thru one and 50 amps thru the other. If one losses some of its connectivity, the other is still within the range to handle the full 100 amps. Here are pics that we are trying.
Attached Thumbnails
electric-1-8th-scale-conversion-kits-d1.jpg   electric-1-8th-scale-conversion-kits-d2.jpg   electric-1-8th-scale-conversion-kits-d3.jpg   electric-1-8th-scale-conversion-kits-d4.jpg  
__________________
Losi 8ight--MMM 2650 Castle
Losi 8T 2.0--Neu 1515 1Y/F MMM V1 or 2200 Castle
Enerland Batteries 5S-5000 Mah or 5S-5000 Turnigy
www.rcproductdesigns.com
Schmutz ist für den Rennsport, asphalt ist für die Anreise
lxmuff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 06:06 PM   #772
Tech Regular
 
shady3031's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 389
Trader Rating: 16 (100%+)
Default

Well guys i have decided to go ahead and build the truggy (Hot Bodies Lightning LSP-Pro-R) Gonna try a MM with a Neu (thinking of trying a 1515 1y or 1.5 D) will be running on small to medium tracks with maxamps 4s 2p 8000 packs. Any ideas on what the gearing should be--I don't have the truggy in my possession yet-so i don't even know what the spur gear size is). I really like what i have heard extremelimits has had to say about his 8T--so i would like to have comparable speed and power.

Thanks
__________________
Losi 8T 2.0 with a powerhouse modded extech 24 ballooning the tires!!!!!
New house toy 1/16 vxl revo on 4s with one broke front axle shaft and many more to come


Special thanks to my wife and family
shady3031 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 06:06 PM   #773
Tech Initiate
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 22
Default

Quote:
The difference is the RPM of the motor.
Thats what I needed to know. Thanks.

My 9l is a 3345 and I'm running 4s2p A123's with 14/46. Maybe I should try the 1512 2d/f? It's the highest of the 4 with 2600Kv. I really want to use the cells I have. Should I be looking for a motor with a higher Kv?
__________________
Chris

Ofna Hyper 8 Pro. Neu 1512 1.5d/f 3200Kv, Castle Creations Mamba Max, 4S2P A123, 13/46 gearing, Spektrum DX2.
Xtremespeed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 06:29 PM   #774
Tech Elite
 
badassrevo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Chardon, Ohio
Posts: 2,276
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lxmuff View Post
Happywing and I talked about the issues with the Deans not having a good enough connection. They are good connectors but I don't think that they were designed to handle the current and hard hits we give them on the track. Here is a solution that could help. Ideally they will share the current from the battery to esc, example a total of 100 amps from battery to esc would have 50 amps thru one and 50 amps thru the other. If one losses some of its connectivity, the other is still within the range to handle the full 100 amps. Here are pics that we are trying.
Tom,
That is a good idea. I am going to give it a try myself. My connectors get super hot. I have wondered if the resistance goes up as the temp goes up. I have experienced some cogging at start up after I run the warm up before the heat race. There is no cogging when the car is put on the track but after I run the 4 min. warm up I get cogging when the race starts. I am still struggling with keeping everything cool. Have you found a better quality fan?
__________________
www.casterracingusa.com - Caster Racing USA
www.maxamps.com - MaxAmps Batteries
www.paintmonsterairbrushing.com - Paint Monster Airbrushing
www.BFastrc.com - Feel the Diff
badassrevo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 06:58 PM   #775
Tech Regular
 
xtremelimits285's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Hudson, FL
Posts: 261
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to xtremelimits285
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by plumslow View Post
The difference is the RPM of the motor. So you need to know the battery you are going to use then select the motor. I have a 1515/2.5D/F in my 8ight T with a 4S. You could get a higher KV motor (more RPM per volt) if you are running a 3S battery, or a lower KV motor if you are running a 5S. You should look at the specs for all of the motors and see what motor to buy. In the 1515 series a 1.5D is 2700 KV, a 1Y is 2200 KV, and a 2.5 (like mine) is a 1700KV. Where you get in to problems is you can only get from a 12 to a 20 tooth pinion so if you go silly with a motor you can't gear it for speed or slow it down enough with gear. I learned this out with my first motor (not my 2.5 Neu), I need a 5S to run it due to Truggy not having enough speed even with a 20 pinion and a 44 spur on 4S. I suspect the total power is about the same just the RPM is different given using the same voltage battery pack.

plumslow hit the nail on its head.....
all the motors have diffrent torque, e.i. higher numbers have higher torque, but are low in rpm, and the oppisit for for lower number turns...
but the more volts u run makes up for having less tq....
so like plum slow said look at all the neu 1512's an match it too the batterys ur running(but ive found the neu 1520 2.5d/f to be a best of both worlds motor)
any way im running my 1515 1y on 4s an its balistic(the neu 1515 1y is the highest/bigest/lowest turn motor anyone should use for a truggy)(there is one turn lower then mine but its way too much for a 1/8th scale it pulls 200+amps cont. & thats way to much for rc cars, its more for planes or 1/5 cars)

my neu 1515 1y/f pulls 110amps conts. and my mamba only pulls 100amps

and that has alot to do with my truggy overheating.....
thankfully u can program the mm , i toned down my motor alot, also my 1515 1y is way too much for racing, but ive got it geared & programed for a clay race track,my mm is basicly maxed out to slow down my neu motor, so now i can race it, but i still cant make a 20or30 main, most ive done is 16mins but thats at race pace, once i get a monster mamba max/ or MGM 224 ill beable to make 20-30min mains , theres a guy on the rc-monster forms that takes 2 mamba maxes an make them into one(so it will do 200amps conts.).... if he pm's me back with a price an see if hill do one me, i mite do it a take my mm an buy 1 more send it to him and have me a home made mnster mamba max

ill let u know, hes testing them with mike from rc-monster.com
__________________
Gary Antonietti
Losi Eight T - Monster Mamba v2 - Neu 1515 1y/f - MaxAmps 3s 8000mah - Futaba 2.4GHz Tx/Rx 6EX - Futaba S9351 Servo - 17/46t Gearing
- www.rc-monster.com - www.rcproductdesigns.com - www.teknorc.com - www.rclipos.com - www.teamlosi.com - www.castlecreations.com -
xtremelimits285 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 06:58 PM   #776
Tech Regular
 
xtremelimits285's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Hudson, FL
Posts: 261
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to xtremelimits285
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by plumslow View Post
The difference is the RPM of the motor. So you need to know the battery you are going to use then select the motor. I have a 1515/2.5D/F in my 8ight T with a 4S. You could get a higher KV motor (more RPM per volt) if you are running a 3S battery, or a lower KV motor if you are running a 5S. You should look at the specs for all of the motors and see what motor to buy. In the 1515 series a 1.5D is 2700 KV, a 1Y is 2200 KV, and a 2.5 (like mine) is a 1700KV. Where you get in to problems is you can only get from a 12 to a 20 tooth pinion so if you go silly with a motor you can't gear it for speed or slow it down enough with gear. I learned this out with my first motor (not my 2.5 Neu), I need a 5S to run it due to Truggy not having enough speed even with a 20 pinion and a 44 spur on 4S. I suspect the total power is about the same just the RPM is different given using the same voltage battery pack.

plumslow hit the nail on its head.....
all the motors have diffrent torque, e.i. higher numbers have higher torque, but are low in rpm, and the oppisit for for lower number turns...
but the more volts u run makes up for having less tq....
so like plum slow said look at all the neu 1512's an match it too the batterys ur running(but ive found the neu 1520 2.5d/f to be a best of both worlds motor)
any way im running my 1515 1y on 4s an its balistic(the neu 1515 1y is the highest/bigest/lowest turn motor anyone should use for a truggy)(there is one turn lower then mine but its way too much for a 1/8th scale it pulls 200+amps cont. & thats way to much for rc cars, its more for planes or 1/5 cars)

my neu 1515 1y/f pulls 110amps conts. and my mamba only pulls 100amps

and that has alot to do with my truggy overheating.....
thankfully u can program the mm , i toned down my motor alot, also my 1515 1y is way too much for racing, but ive got it geared & programed for a clay race track,my mm is basicly maxed out to slow down my neu motor, so now i can race it, but i still cant make a 20or30 main, most ive done is 16mins but thats at race pace, once i get a monster mamba max/ or MGM 224 ill beable to make 20-30min mains , theres a guy on the rc-monster forms that takes 2 mamba maxes an make them into one(so it will do 200amps conts.).... if he pm's me back with a price an see if hill do one me, i mite do it a take my mm an buy 1 more send it to him and have me a home made mnster mamba max

ill let u know, hes testing them with mike from rc-monster.com
__________________
Gary Antonietti
Losi Eight T - Monster Mamba v2 - Neu 1515 1y/f - MaxAmps 3s 8000mah - Futaba 2.4GHz Tx/Rx 6EX - Futaba S9351 Servo - 17/46t Gearing
- www.rc-monster.com - www.rcproductdesigns.com - www.teknorc.com - www.rclipos.com - www.teamlosi.com - www.castlecreations.com -
xtremelimits285 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 07:20 PM   #777
Tech Initiate
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 22
Default

Since I have a 3345 now and would go to a 2600 at the most with a 1512, then I would have to get a larger pinion to get the speeds I already have with the 9l? If that is right, am I gaining anything? I feel like I'm missing something.

Look on the RC-Monster forum Gary, I noticed that guy responded to your question on the Mamba upgrade.
__________________
Chris

Ofna Hyper 8 Pro. Neu 1512 1.5d/f 3200Kv, Castle Creations Mamba Max, 4S2P A123, 13/46 gearing, Spektrum DX2.

Last edited by Xtremespeed; 08-02-2007 at 07:42 PM.
Xtremespeed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 07:26 PM   #778
Tech Adept
 
level-4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 157
Trader Rating: 17 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to level-4
Default

well thanks to Tom (lxmuff) and Dan from www.rcproductdesigns.com i have finally finished my EL8 conversion.





i'm running the Neu 1512 1.5 D with the Mamba Max and Max Amps 6000 4cell.
can't wait to get it out to the track for some tuning runs.
level-4 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 07:31 PM   #779
Tech Elite
 
badassrevo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Chardon, Ohio
Posts: 2,276
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

looks good.
What pinion are you running?
__________________
www.casterracingusa.com - Caster Racing USA
www.maxamps.com - MaxAmps Batteries
www.paintmonsterairbrushing.com - Paint Monster Airbrushing
www.BFastrc.com - Feel the Diff
badassrevo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 07:37 PM   #780
Tech Adept
 
level-4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 157
Trader Rating: 17 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to level-4
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by badassrevo View Post
looks good.
What pinion are you running?
i have an 11 on it now, may go to a 10 before i take it out to test.
level-4 is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Official: Novak's 1/8 Scale Nitro to Electric Conversion Kits NovakTwo Electric Off-Road 1132 09-30-2009 12:41 AM
Savage X Conversion Kits!!! speedzonerc.com Speedzone Hobbies 2 02-20-2009 06:10 AM
Novak 1/8th Scale Electric Conversion Kit Craps Electric Off-Road 295 12-16-2008 05:44 PM
1/8 Scale Electric Conversion Items, Nitro Items, Charger, Balancer, Truck Tires, etc Cain R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 14 03-03-2008 06:59 AM
WTB any conversion kits for FT TC3 TheRaven R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 1 09-17-2003 04:59 PM


All times are GMT -8. It is currently 02:36 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.7.4
Content © 2001-2008 RCTech.net | Privacy Policy | Terms of Use Privacy Policy | Terms of Use

SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0