Nitro Vs. Electric
03-20-2007, 06:33 PM
#77
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Originally Posted by Alltapdout
Electric rulz
They have no curfew!!
They have no curfew!!
03-21-2007, 09:13 AM
#79
LOWGEARED: There is a difference, but I think once I get my brushless / lipo setup going, it will really be minimal and more satisfying on the electric side.
Honestly making a side by side pack really isn't hard. Just make sure you have a battery building jig. Deans I really like. I also run a bead of either JB weld or shoe goo between the cells so they stay together nicely. If you just do battery bars, they sometimes can get bent all around which I don't like.
Honestly making a side by side pack really isn't hard. Just make sure you have a battery building jig. Deans I really like. I also run a bead of either JB weld or shoe goo between the cells so they stay together nicely. If you just do battery bars, they sometimes can get bent all around which I don't like.
03-21-2007, 11:31 AM
#81
Originally Posted by Cain
LOWGEARED: There is a difference, but I think once I get my brushless / lipo setup going, it will really be minimal and more satisfying on the electric side.
I have an LRP Vector 7.5 and an Orion 4800 Li-Po in my B4 and I'm now ready for 15 minute mains! The only problem is that ROAR and RC Pro Series won't allow this battery in 2WD Mod Buggy; my local track said I could practice with the battery, but I can't race with it until fall of this year or when more people go Li-Po, whichever comes first.
The start-up costs are high for BL + Li-Po, but you'll save money in the long run in comparison to brushed + NIMH and/or nitro. My prediction is that in 2 - 3 years, this technology will usher in a new golden age of electric off-road. Before that happens, Losi and AE need to embrace the new technology by coming out with kits and RTR's that are designed for BL + Li-Po and the sanctioning bodies need to drop the minimum weight requirement to 1300 grams for buggies and 1500 grams for trucks.
03-21-2007, 04:32 PM
#83
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Few Questions ere guys
1)what would it take to upgrade my current B4 to brushless, or is a B4 rtr kit (which is what i purchased) already brushless?
2) how much re Li-po batterys and where can i get them
3) what exactly is a Brushless?
1)what would it take to upgrade my current B4 to brushless, or is a B4 rtr kit (which is what i purchased) already brushless?
2) how much re Li-po batterys and where can i get them
3) what exactly is a Brushless?
03-21-2007, 04:56 PM
#84
Originally Posted by DR1919
Few Questions ere guys
1)what would it take to upgrade my current B4 to brushless, or is a B4 rtr kit (which is what i purchased) already brushless?
2) how much re Li-po batterys and where can i get them
3) what exactly is a Brushless?
1)what would it take to upgrade my current B4 to brushless, or is a B4 rtr kit (which is what i purchased) already brushless?
2) how much re Li-po batterys and where can i get them
3) what exactly is a Brushless?
2) http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXLXR6&P=ML
You'll also need a charger that can charge Li-Pos:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXHDJ1&P=ML
3) http://www.modelflight.com.au/brushless_motor_faq.htm
03-21-2007, 05:20 PM
#85
I would go with the Mamba Max units from BPP. They sell them for $180 shipped, all models.
For battery packs, max amps as the best price to performance with there packs. lots of good info I have found about them. You can get an 8000mah 7.4V pack for $119. They also have cheaper packs too. the 8000mah will let you run 20+ minutes with a mod brushless!
As for chargers, the ICE I have heard is good, the MRC 989 is also a good charger and has a power supply with it already.
You will also want a balancer. I have seen them for 30 bucks on maxamps I believe. this is equivalent to getting a discharge tray as far as price to requirement, less even.
Upfront, the costs may seem high, but keep in mind you are:
1. Buying 1 esc and motor that doesn't need brushes, comm lathe, etc. Very little maintenance. The mamba max also will do brushed motors
2. The lipos can be charged immediately after running, and also can be stored with a charge. From what I have gathered, use the proper charging techniques and you are all set. You really don't use the full amount of the pack since most electric races are 5 minutes, so you probably just need 1 pack. Also, they maintain there performance better than NIMH packs from what I understand.
To me, longer runtimes, less maintenance was the big factor on my decision to go lipo. If you track will allow it, give it a try.
For battery packs, max amps as the best price to performance with there packs. lots of good info I have found about them. You can get an 8000mah 7.4V pack for $119. They also have cheaper packs too. the 8000mah will let you run 20+ minutes with a mod brushless!
As for chargers, the ICE I have heard is good, the MRC 989 is also a good charger and has a power supply with it already.
You will also want a balancer. I have seen them for 30 bucks on maxamps I believe. this is equivalent to getting a discharge tray as far as price to requirement, less even.
Upfront, the costs may seem high, but keep in mind you are:
1. Buying 1 esc and motor that doesn't need brushes, comm lathe, etc. Very little maintenance. The mamba max also will do brushed motors
2. The lipos can be charged immediately after running, and also can be stored with a charge. From what I have gathered, use the proper charging techniques and you are all set. You really don't use the full amount of the pack since most electric races are 5 minutes, so you probably just need 1 pack. Also, they maintain there performance better than NIMH packs from what I understand.
To me, longer runtimes, less maintenance was the big factor on my decision to go lipo. If you track will allow it, give it a try.
03-21-2007, 06:21 PM
#87
Tech Apprentice
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well i looked at all that equipment and its somewhere between 500-600$ WOW!
Thats a new buggy!
Thats a new buggy!
03-21-2007, 06:31 PM
#90
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what are some advantages of brushless vs NITRO?