thunder tiger bought associated. im curious as well i race the ttr buggy. but i will be switching to the rc8. just not right away. only a guess but i think in the future you will rtr's of the ae cars become thunder tiger names, while still selling as ae cars too. not sure if thunder tiger will still spend money designing cars, may just stick with helis and bikes. im hoping to find out more this week at the nitro challenge the right people will be there to ask that exact question.