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Old 09-01-2009, 10:15 AM   #46
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This is the only newsworthy topic I could find today....It could be 1994 all over again (god, I hope so). I can't understand why people keep voting for Democrats over and over again whenever they are clearly drunk with power. I hope Pelosi and Reid go down....
That is going to be tough. Pelosi has wack-jobs like herself in her jurisdiction. If she is in danger, look for ACORN to come to the rescue. SIEGE HEIL, OBAMA! SIEGE HEIL!! SIEGE HEIL!!

Same with Harry Reid. Although with Reid, he may lose to Danny Tarkanian. Dan has a HUGE base of support behind his back and Reid might actually lose! It would be good. But let's see what the Hitler's Youth... I mean ACORN, has in store for his campaign.

Now, onto the topic. This health care bill has started... gaining support? I was watching CNN last night and heard this from Jack Cafferty. Now usually, I take whatever Wolf Blitzer and Jack Cafferty with a gallon of salt, but this sounded believable namely because of the Cap Cod Orca's death.

Is anyone else getting quite frightened about this?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26643.html
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SIEGE HIEL! HIEL ZE OBAMA!!

I personally think the Democrats and Obama blew any political capital they had with the first attempt to pass the bill. Unfortunately for the Democrats, the American people are waking up as you can see by the town hall meetings around the country. You know how the saying goes...fool me once....Yes, the republicans did bad things under Dubya, but it really pales in comparison to the Obamanations that Barry Soerento's administration is doing every day. I hear Obama is ramping up the military buildup in Afghanistan. I think its the right thing to do and I support Obama on that. I support our Military even if they are reminiscent of Ghangis Kahn and even if they do terrorize villages in the middle of the night. The underlying question to this common sense person is...where is the anti war outrage? Oh thats right it was phony and its only Anti-Republican outrage...That is what I hate about Liberals..their double standard....Ask Cindy Sheehan....
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SIEGE HIEL! HIEL ZE OBAMA!!

I personally think the Democrats and Obama blew any political capital they had with the first attempt to pass the bill. Unfortunately for the Democrats, the American people are waking up as you can see by the town hall meetings around the country. You know how the saying goes...fool me once....Yes, the republicans did bad things under Dubya, but it really pales in comparison to the Obamanations that Barry Soerento's administration is doing every day. I hear Obama is ramping up the military buildup in Afghanistan. I think its the right thing to do and I support Obama on that. I support our Military even if they are reminiscent of Ghangis Kahn and even if they do terrorize villages in the middle of the night. The underlying question to this common sense person is...where is the anti war outrage? Oh thats right it was phony and its only Anti-Republican outrage...That is what I hate about Liberals..their double standard....Ask Cindy Sheehan....
I live in an overtly liberal town. During the last year of the bush administration (iv only been here 1.5 years) everywhere you went, EVERY weekend, and even sometimes during the week, there would be anti-war protestors all over the place having small demonstrations, holding up picket signs, you name it.

The DAY Obama was elected.... WOOOOSH... they are all gone. Nowhere to be seen. I literally haven't seen a SINGLE protest group out since he was elected. But, technically, NOTHING has changed. We are still in Iraq (and will continue to be) and we are sending more troops to Afganistan than before.

So... why no more protestors? Were they REALLY protesting our military action, or were they using that as a guise for protesting against a republican president? How unbelievably hypocritical can the libs get?

Literally...not a SINGLE one.
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As a former participant of a Democrat RUN political war, I have but one thing to say:

Get us the hell out of Afghanistan!
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Capt and D4man, you two are quite wrong. The are still protesting, however not in huge numbers anymore. Cindy is still going at it. But she is no longer being covered because the Liberals have their man in charge now. So in a way, I respect Cindy since she is still fighting for what she believes in. Not saying it is right, but I admire her for standing her ground, despite her astroturf group leaving her behind now that they won.

Cindy tried to go to Martha's Vineyard while Obama is in his golf game, but nothing was said after that. Odd...

I am actually trying to get another Liberal here to start talking about his ideas. Oxynary will love him. He is quite educated and aware. You will need to do your homework before responding to him. He hasn't stumped me yet, but he has some interesting things to say.
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Capt and D4man, you two are quite wrong.
What?

I didn't say NOBODY is protesting ANYwhere... I said in my little town, that used to have dozens and dozens of protesters on countless street corners EVERY weekend for the entire first year I lived here.... completely vanished the VERY next day after obama was elected.

Don't tell me i'm wrong, sucker... im exactly right. Do you live in my town?
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Capt and D4man, you two are quite wrong.
Errr...I used to see anti war this, that and everything when Bush was in office..now I see.....well.....NOTHING...and no outrage or anything...no nightly news reports about IEDs...no reports on deaths...no reports on anything war related...sad really....

And CO, I owe you an apology for supporting Obama and the troop surge in Afghanistan. I forgot about the abomination (obamanation) that Johnson caused in the Vietnam war....Frankly, I would be terrified if I were a soldier and a Democrat was in charge of the White House.....I didnt want to sound like one of those sniveling weasel libs who said that "i support the troops but dont support the mission"...
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Well I was just going off of the mention of Cindy Sheehan. I digressed.

Anyways, so who knows when Obama, the most transparent president we ever had *laugh*, is going to release the following records:

Occidental College records – Not released
Columbia College records – Not released
Columbia Thesis paper – “not available”
Harvard College records – Not released
Selective Service Registration – Not released
Medical records – Not released
Illinois State Senate records – “not available”
Illinois State Senate schedule – “not available”
Law practice client list – Not released
Harvard Law Review articles published – None
University of Chicago scholarly articles - None

Better yet, who has the info of Obama announcing his presidency from Bill Ayer's living room?
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You guys are going to enjoy this:

http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/view...206&start=1720

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

Letter to the General Counsel of admiral Mallen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
April 22nd, 2009

Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ

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April 21, 2009

Attn: Captain James Crawford

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Dear Captain Crawford:

Enclosed are follow-up documents to our prior communication.

If you recall, I currently represent 160 plaintiffs, who include members of the US military with ranks as high as Major General. Some of these plaintiffs are also current State Representatives in their respective state legislatures.

This packet includes the following documents:

1. Verified Quo Warranto Complaint, which was filed by these US military plaintiffs and served on Eric Holder, Attorney General of the United States, demanding that Quo Warranto proceedings be instituted to prove that Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama is eligible for the position of the US President.

1. Verified Quo Warranto Complaint served on US Attorney for the District of Columbia, Jeffrey Taylor, demanding commencement of Quo Warranto proceedings for Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama to prove his eligibility for the position of the US President.

1. Dossiers 1 – 6, forwarded to US Attorney General Eric Holder, FBI Director Robert Mueller, Director of the Secret Service Mark Sullivan, and Chief Justice John Roberts, as well as to all of the Supreme Court associate justices. The dossiers include the following items:

a. Statement of federal agent Steven Coffman, presenting evidence that Barack Hussein Obama’s Selective Service certificate was forged and backdated. This evidence shows that Obama’s Selective Service certificate was prepared in 2008 and backdated to appear as if it was prepared in 1980. Failure to fill out a timely certification for selective service makes one ineligible for work in the executive branch of the US government, which understandably includes the presidency as the top position in the government.

b. Statement of Sandra Ramsey Lines, a forensic document examiner, explaining why the Certification of Live Birth, which was posted by Barack Obama on the internet, cannot be considered to be a genuine document and the reasons for the need to review the original vault copy of this document.

c. Statement of Jorje Baro, licensed private investigator, showing evidence of forgery in the Certification of Live Birth, which was posted on the internet by Barack Hussein Obama.

d. Statement of Neil Sankey, a licensed private investigator, identifying 100 addresses, located all over the US, for Barack and Michelle Obama. Since most of these addresses are connected to different social security numbers, this may constitute evidence of identity theft, social security fraud, tax evasion fraud, campaign contributions fraud, charitable organizations fraud and other related crimes.

e. School registration records from Indonesia showing that Barack Obama was legally registered under the name of Barry Soetoro (last name of his stepfather).

f. Barack Obama’s Illinois state bar registration, which he had to fill out in order to be licensed as an attorney in Illinois. In this document, Mr. Obama swears under oath that he did not have and never had any other prior names. In light of the Indonesian school registration records, itemized in 3 (e) above, this bar registration is evidence that Mr. Obama committed perjury.

g. Database of 130 current job positions for Barack H Obama, Barry Obama and Michelle Obama, which may be evidence of campaign contributions fraud, where contributions over the allowable amounts were documented as job positions. This may account for $300 million in unexplained campaign contributions.

h. Evidence of a cyber space campaign of character assassination, harassment and intimidations against my client, active duty officer Scott Easterling, and myself, as well as other cyber crimes.

As of today’s date, there has been no response to the receipt of these documents from Mr. Mueller, Mr. Sullivan or Mr. Taylor. A verbal response from the Justice Department was received, indicating that these documents were forwarded to Solicitor General Elena Kagan. The Department of Justice also sent another response, indicating that these documents were sent to its criminal division.

Meanwhile hundreds of US military personnel have filed Article 138 grievances under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, seeking verification of Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama’s eligibility for the position of Commander-in-Chief. These grievances are based on the fact that Barack Obama has held a foreign citizenship status from birth, which makes him ineligible to comply with the Natural Born Citizen requirement in Article II, Section 1 [5] of the US Constitution, regardless of the actual physical location of his birth. Although Mr. Obama has consistently refused to produce a long form copy of his birth certificate to prove his claims that he was born in Hawaii, that document is basically irrelevant. Mr. Obama is Constitutionally ineligible to hold the office of US President because his parents conveyed dual US/UK citizenship to him at birth. Any foreign citizenship automatically eradicates a “natural born” status. His father’s United Kingdom citizenship was automatically conferred on all of his father’s children, including Barack Hussein Obama, at the moment of birth. Mr. Obama has openly acknowledged that he held this dual citizenship and that he became a citizen of Kenya at age two, when Kenya gained its independence from the UK. At approximately age 5, Mr. Obama became a citizen of Indonesia and his legal name was changed to Barry Soetoro. There is no evidence that his name was ever legally changed after that point in time.

When Scott Easterling, one of the military officers who instituted the Quo Warranto action, first questioned Mr. Obama’s eligibility, an investigation was launched against Lt. Easterling instead of investigating the questions surrounding Mr. Obama’s eligibility. Article 138 of the UCMJ gives each and every member of the US military the right to obtain a resolution for his grievances against a commanding officer without any negative repercussions to himself. Please provide a speedy response to the UCMJ Article 138 investigation request to verify Barack Obama’s Constitutional eligibility to be a US president.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.
Yours very truly,

Orly Taitz
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Errr...I used to see anti war this, that and everything when Bush was in office..now I see.....well.....NOTHING...and no outrage or anything...no nightly news reports about IEDs...no reports on deaths...no reports on anything war related...sad really....

And CO, I owe you an apology for supporting Obama and the troop surge in Afghanistan. I forgot about the abomination (obamanation) that Johnson caused in the Vietnam war....Frankly, I would be terrified if I were a soldier and a Democrat was in charge of the White House.....I didnt want to sound like one of those sniveling weasel libs who said that "i support the troops but dont support the mission"...
No apology necessary, I understand you wanting a war in Afghanistan to succeed, me too, but not with the rampant disregard 0 has for military lives.
I have been against going into Afghan since the beginning. That hellhole is not worth one American life.
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The Obama administration and members of Congress are pushing legislation that will create a new agency, The Consumer Financial Protection Agency, whose job would be to simplify and police all manner of financial transactions, from what sorts of mortgages could be offered to what sort of credit cards would be in your wallet to whether Wall Street could create new ways of buying and selling stocks. In the name of making your life easier and avoiding the next financial meltdown, the CFPA might just harshly limit how you spend your hard-earned (and dwindling!) dollars.

Government simply doesn’t want to trust free people with their own choices. In Obama’s world, there are two Americas: victims and exploiters. He sees the role of government as a heavy hammer on the latter. In the real world, though, most people don’t fall into either category, but their liberty and choices will get limited by an autocratic and bureaucratic leviathan which treats as illegal everything not explicitly allowed. And that is simply not freedom. At best, it’s a benevolent despotism.
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No apology necessary, I understand you wanting a war in Afghanistan to succeed, me too, but not with the rampant disregard 0 has for military lives.
I have been against going into Afghan since the beginning. That hellhole is not worth one American life.
Couldn't agree more.
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WHATS GOING ON HERE???


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301...ptember-8-2009
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WTF??????

It's the:
The Communist Youth Organization (Komsomol) was the major vehicle of political education and mobilization for Soviet youth. Founded in November 1918, and disbanded in 1991, the All-Union Leninist Communist League of Youth was one of a series of Soviet institutions dedicated to educating and regulating Soviet citizens at every life stage - the Little Octobrists, the Young Pioneers (ten to fourteen), the Komsomol (fourteen to mid-twenties), and the Communist Party.

The full on communist asault on America brought to you by IWON Obama!


I keep telling you that this has nothing to do with Hitler, this is a Stalinist attack!
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Your on!

I would put your sorry rear end down on the boarder, with bullets this time and orders to shoot if not obeyed!

Health care, I would put a stop to the state politicians setting mandates for the medical insurance you choose, you decide what coverage you want or can afford, and to be able to purchase from anywhere in the country, not just the state you are in. I would have tort reform to bring down the cost of malpractice ins and over-testing done to protect the doctors from higher premiums.

Reagan had the sulution for a depressed economy, it's all written down, it will work again.

Keep our military strong and do search and destroy missions on terrorists instead of ocupation.

I got more, don't be affraid to ask...
Sorry CO....this is D4mans question. He has to put up on this one.

But nice to see that he has back up.....makes for good hunting.

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I guess you have to add,paying tax don't count either.
But I will say, d4man, has answered those questions as well as Obama, and his brood has.
Obama is just another, democrat politition.
Democrat polititions, need poor, dependent people,as a voting block. So tgey impliment policies that create or enable them.
D4man never answered these questions....I just asked him. Also once again, just like D4man you went on the attack not once mentioning what you would do in said position. The object of the political game is to satisfy EVERYONE INCLUDING THE POOR. It is easy to sit along the sidelines and find a reason to interject (trying to find a better word for complain) why someones' idea won't work.

But they never try to come up with a solution.

As for taxes.....you gotta pay to play.....don't like the ante', pick up your chips and roll out. You think that having the worlds most powerful military force was created on freebies and handouts? Hell back in WWI and II American citizens put up for the war effort with blood sweat and tears.

Now we have Workman's comp and Cindy Sheehan.....lets see how strong our military will be in 2011.

I understand about the excessive taxation of the American People, but you are only thinking on one side of the logic. You have to think like a businessman; and that is another thread on its own.

Back to CO.....

Your idea is to use the Military as boarder patrol agents?? I thought you knew better than that...take a look what happened in Fallujah: Soldiers operating way out from the current ROE, raping and killing civilians. You can't turn a combat soldier, who is trained to kill, into a guard, especially under the current guidelines of the US Boarder Patrol....bad stuff happens.

Besides there IS a contingent of National Guard and Reserve troops being deployed to the boarder as we speak.

As for Reagan....shit, he was my hero. 'Nuff said.

As for keeping the military strong I am with you there too, but Wardo hates paying taxes......that is why nearly half of today's men and women in uniform lives just below the poverty level. Don't believe me?

Look it up.

We get paid below minimum wages!! Do the math:

I get paid 2,828.40 a month, before taxes. Break it down to how much an hour, like the average American wages.

According to my Calculator, I get paid 2.21 an HOUR!!!

How much is the Federal Minimum wage?

$7.25 per hour effective July 24, 2009.

.....and Wardo is taking about too much taxes.
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