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Old 08-31-2009, 04:09 PM   #31
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One of the biggest differences between the "left and the right" is a problem that seems to plague the democrats..for lack of better words its entitlement..
Entitlement issues are increasingly a concern of psychologists and therapists. Pastors and some educators report similar concerns. We seem to have come to the place where we feel entitled to the good life. We're entitled to have everything work for us. If it doesn't, someone must be to blame, and you can be sure of at least this: Whoever is at fault, it isn't us.

What a crazy idea!

Imagine a pile of presents under the Christmas tree as large as Bunker Hill that's taken for granted. That's just the way it's supposed to be. Every kid has a right to presents by the heaps, and even that will disappoint if the latest, coolest thing isn't to be found.

A person standing on a beautiful beach in Hawaii with a frown on his face, muttering, "I really liked our spring vacation better" -- that's an entitlement issue, too.

I read that these days mental health types see young people on a regular basis who are absolutely certain their lives should be better than they are and someone else is to blame. But not only young people. This seems to be an intergenerational dysfunction. Working in an upscale retirement home can be a tough gig! Talk radio shows and their jocks specialize in identifying the culprits and not very often are they us. And when it's our own children who have stepped in it, the self-righteousness of parents can be a wonder to behold.

The upshot is a culture of complaint. We have, it seems, grown fluent in the language of blame, complaint and grievance, while having lost our linguistic capacity when it comes to words such as, "Please," "Thank you," and "I'm sorry."

We also seem increasingly disabled when it comes to those locutions that express personal responsibility for our part in the problems that beset us. After all, how can we possibly say, "It's my fault," when we've been weaned and schooled on self-esteem? If I'm OK and you're OK, then it must be "Them."

A sense of entitlement means that we feel that we have a right or a claim to something, whether it's the best school, a grand home, preferential treatment, or the good life.

How has this pervasive sense of entitlement come to pass? Is it self-esteem run amok? Is it the emphasis on "rights" in speech and thought? Is entitlement a corollary of affluence or a consequence of consumerism? Does it owe to being the world's sole superpower? Whatever the cause, this much seems true: Entitlement is the handmaiden of the ego, the sign of a neglected, malnourished soul.

Entitlement signals a rejection of the very DNA of America. Our national genetic code, at least at one time, was patterned on respect for the common man and woman. It was sequenced by a belief in the dignity of human life that's not the consequence of having, but of being.

As I have gotten older it does upset me when someone like OxY thinks that they are entitled to a "good" life without putting any effort into it other than breathing..free public transportation..free health care..low cost housing and just how much effort do they put forth..
Very eloquent, but I still think it's the damn lawyers fault!

They are taught to take from one and give to another, "It's not your fault, someone else will pay", taking a large cut for themselves of course.
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Old 08-31-2009, 04:22 PM   #32
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Ok granted. But he still do not formuate his own opinions even armed with that information.....it's usually "copy > paste" with him......

Like for instance what would HE do to solve the illegal immigration problem?

If he was to created a better health plan than Obama, how can he assure the average taxpayers that his system wil be exploited by those who wants to abuse the system; citizens, politicians and illegal immigrants alike?

What can he do to to help boost the ecomony WITHOUT additional stimulus packages?

I heard somone mention this earlier (about the military forces downsizing); what is going to do with the infux of American troops returning from the combat zones and finding out that they are no longer needed? How is he going to prepare thousands of American troops to compete in the current American workplace?

These are the same questions that is currently being asked (rather bombarded) of Obama....now I want to hear D4mans solutions instead of constant bantering......the same can go for the rest who rather find pleasure in accusing one another of being left/right. You a can gripe on forever on whos a liberal or who is a conservative, but nothing is going to change unless you do something about it.

And just voting doesn't count.
Your on!

I would put your sorry rear end down on the boarder, with bullets this time and orders to shoot if not obeyed!

Health care, I would put a stop to the state politicians setting mandates for the medical insurance you choose, you decide what coverage you want or can afford, and to be able to purchase from anywhere in the country, not just the state you are in. I would have tort reform to bring down the cost of malpractice ins and over-testing done to protect the doctors from higher premiums.

Reagan had the sulution for a depressed economy, it's all written down, it will work again.

Keep our military strong and do search and destroy missions on terrorists instead of ocupation.

I got more, don't be affraid to ask...
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Old 08-31-2009, 04:27 PM   #33
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A combination of the last two posts is badly needed. (was too slow, the first on this page and the last from the previous page)

With right blaming left, left blaming right and people waiting for another hand out, nothing is ever gonna get done.

Everyone was so caught up in how much they disliked Bush, and Bush's approval ratings, not many bothered to acknowledge the house and senates ratings were worse.

I'll try to locate a link, but NPR a few days ago, had a story about a poll that was taken. It involved the people, the senate and the house. It was about polarization. It was found that the "people", were overwhelmingly centrist. The house and senate on the other hand, overwhelmingly bias. You know, the people that represent you and me.

Whether you like the guy or not, disapprove of his policies, or agree wholeheartedly, there is no reason Kennedy should have been in office that long. There is no reason ANY politician should be in office that long.

I'm 30 years old, turning 31 in Oct., he served longer than I've been alive. Does anyone else see a problem with this, or am I just crazy?

And the same will happen with Obama, and is. We'll focus on a figure head and say our guy can do it better. And yet nothing will get done. We'll vote in a new president and everyone else, in large part, will stay in office.

I have a bet going with a friend of mine here in California. The politicians in this state are destroying it. Some of us got IOU's as a tax return. How many of them do you think will be replaced come next election. Yet the bickering will continue.
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How in the hell do you figure Obama is better than Bush????

Do any of you Bush Haters understand that's exactly what the liberals want you to think???
To me Bush had really put the rest of the world hating the Americans and with Obama some of this has gone away..I dont agree with what Obama stands for..socialism..I dont think that "his" form of stimulus packages are working or ever will work..YOU CANT GIVE MONEY TO THE PEOPLE WHO CAUSED THE PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE AND EXPECT THEM TO "DO THE RIGHT THING"..time will prove just how bad Obama is..one term in office and its going to take 10 terms to undo all the damage his administration has done..
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And there's no guarantee we can keep conservatives elected for 10 terms, especially when a McCain sneaks in.

Reagan's plan for a depressed economy can be summed up in 2 words...cut taxes!!!

Most conservatives disagree with this, but I happen to believe in term limits. Ted Kennedy? Look up Robert Byrd of West Virginia! Every government building in the state is named for him. And how many Republican members of the Senate are former members of the KKK?

Or Charlie "Oh wow I totally forgot I owned that house" Rangel of Harlem. I think he was elected to congress in 1974.
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Ok granted. But he still do not formuate his own opinions even armed with that information.....it's usually "copy > paste" with him......

Like for instance what would HE do to solve the illegal immigration problem?

If he was to created a better health plan than Obama, how can he assure the average taxpayers that his system wil be exploited by those who wants to abuse the system; citizens, politicians and illegal immigrants alike?

What can he do to to help boost the ecomony WITHOUT additional stimulus packages?

I heard somone mention this earlier (about the military forces downsizing); what is going to do with the infux of American troops returning from the combat zones and finding out that they are no longer needed? How is he going to prepare thousands of American troops to compete in the current American workplace?

These are the same questions that is currently being asked (rather bombarded) of Obama....now I want to hear D4mans solutions instead of constant bantering......the same can go for the rest who rather find pleasure in accusing one another of being left/right. You a can gripe on forever on whos a liberal or who is a conservative, but nothing is going to change unless you do something about it.

And just voting doesn't count.
I guess you have to add,paying tax don't count either.
But I will say, d4man, has answered those questions as well as Obama, and his brood has.
Obama is just another, democrat politition.
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Most conservatives disagree with this, but I happen to believe in term limits.
I agree with that wholeheartedly. As long as people can make their entire career in politics, their policies will benefit politicians. Someone who will be going back to a private corporate job in just a few years isn't going to destroy the private sector.

Now apparently congressional seats are hereditary. They want to find another Kennedy to fill Ted's seat.

Of course, I guess you could say the same for Bush.
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There is only one way to bring politicians back under the control of the voters:

Campaign donations:

Campaign money WILL ONLY come from residents of the district they represent with a $1000. maximum donation. This will be for local representation for city, state and congress offices.
For statewide elections of US Senators, only residents of that state will donate to the campaigns, a maximum of $1000.
For President only residents of this country will donate to the candidates a maximum of $1000.

No donations will be made by any business, organization, or union.

ONLY RESIDENTS WILL MAKE CAMPAIGN DONATIONS.

This practice of the national organizations, DNC and RNC dolling out money makes the politician beholden to a single group that the electorate has NO control over.

When the People control the campaign financing the politicians will respond to the voters!
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Where did the other thread go?

Was it deleted or just moved?
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Was it deleted or just moved?
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I am quite confident that if there are term limits for congress, there would be much less in-fighting and more things getting done, with less pet projects/earmarks, and legislation that actually makes sense.

And do not get me started with that Cape Cod Orca, Kennedy. That A-hole. When his state has a Republican governor, he demands legislation be passed to prevent him from appointing another senator, in case John Kerry won the election. Then when Romney is gone, they want the ability be reinstated back to the governor? That is just as disgusting as Ted Kennedy's life. And now they want another Kennedy to fill his seat? What the hell is all that about? It is sad that a human life passes every day in this world, and I know this is cruel, but I will not miss Ted Kennedy. Can anyone remember what the Liberals did with Jessie Holmes when he died? The architect of Reagen's presidency? Yeah, sorry. My condolences to the Kennedy family. That is it.

And yes, the best way to turn this economy around is to cut taxes all across the board. You want companies to bring in more money so they can hire more people. It is just that simple!! You give them bail-outs and not lower taxes, then they will just keep the money and still not hire anyone because they know that free money will go out the window.

And for those that think Bush was worse than Obama, WAKE UP!!! Obama is by far the most lamest duck president we have ever had in current history. Even Jimmy Carter did more work than this worthless sack of crap we have in office right now. I mean this moron cant even write legislation and leaves it to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid to do HIS work for him. While his idiotic ass goes out and campaigns for legislation he does not even read. My God... honestly. I thought we learned a lesson from Bush. Yet these other people elect this dumbass, after complaining about Bush for 8 years.

We need another Clinton or Reagen. We really do. This has gotten out of hand.
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Term limits won't work, the DNC and RNC will still handpick and finance candidates. For example:
Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), who as chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is charged with ensuring that the party’s most vulnerable members are reelected in 2010...

Where in the Constitution does it say that a congressman from MD or that a delusional congresswoman from SanFran will dertimine who will be alowed to run for office?

Money runs elections, we need to get control and make sure it's the money of legal residents that controls the elections and I fear that only a revolution will bring our freedoms back.
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Barack Obama Sneaks Through “Union Only” Order Shutting 8 in 10 Construction Workers Out of Federal Projects
Barack Obama and his administration are about to significantly drive up the costs of federal building construction. This is an astonishing reach. The Office of Management and Budget has directed that any federal construction over $25 million benefit unions.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that only 15.6% of construction workers in America belong to unions. In other words, 8 out of 10 construction workers in America will be legally denied the right to work on federal building projects.
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This is the only newsworthy topic I could find today....It could be 1994 all over again (god, I hope so). I can't understand why people keep voting for Democrats over and over again whenever they are clearly drunk with power. I hope Pelosi and Reid go down....
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I fear that only a revolution will bring our freedoms back.
I hate sounding like a fear or war monger but I truly feel you may be right about that one.
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