JBRL ELECTRIC OFFROAD RACING SERIES
12-15-2010, 03:31 PM
#62
Not saying people should have to buy a 21.5 and not saying they have too you must have missed what was said but if they wanted to boost that is the only motor that could be run. It was an idea, Either way it doesnt matter.
Its just a discussion not an argument, It really doesnt matter but at least people know why things are being done the way they are.
Its just a discussion not an argument, It really doesnt matter but at least people know why things are being done the way they are.
Josh-- I was running up at HRH last night and Jimmy's boosted 17.5 was as fast as my non boosted 10.5 in the intermediate short course class! It might have even been a little faster! I again why do we need to allow boost. For sportsman it is harder to setup and more expensive. Most in sportsman don't really have the skills to run that fast either. There is an expert class to go fast! Who has a 21.5 in there box right now. Everyone has a 17.5 and just turn down your ESC. What is the big deal here. Put racing back in the hands of the driver like stock has been all these years before it became a war of I can get the most out of my super boosted speedo with extra dialed advance timing speed without blowing everything up at $200 a pop.
Seems like the guys with the biggest issue are those that will run expert anyway. Any sportsman out there that are having heart burn on this????
Seems like the guys with the biggest issue are those that will run expert anyway. Any sportsman out there that are having heart burn on this????
I do. Only cause this is the dumbest argument ever.... No one has a 21.5, nor do they want to spend the $80+ bucks to get one. I remember when stock went from 13.5 to 17.5 everyone was crying cause it was gonna be too slow. Why even think about 21.5? If you wanna run 17.5 w/o timing then turn down your ESC. If you wanna run 17.5 w/ timing then turn it up. Simple. Don't go make people buy a motor so they can race in a pointless class.
12-15-2010, 04:39 PM
#63
Peace
12-15-2010, 07:45 PM
#64
Tech Regular
12-15-2010, 11:19 PM
#65
KISS
Make sure you check www.jimmybabcock.com for the new classes for the 2011 JBRL season. Some classes were worded incorrectly so everyone that has already checked them out.......CHECK AGAIN!!!! Lol
2wd Rookie (RTR motor, 27T brushed or 17.5 no timing/boost)
Sportsman Stock Buggy (17.5 no timing/boost)
Sportsman Stock Truck (17.5 no timing/boost)
Expert Stock Buggy (17.5 unlimited)
Expert Stock 4wd (17.5 unlimited)
Modified Buggy
Modified Truck
Modified 4wd
Sportsman Stock Short Course (17.5 no timing/boost)
Expert Stock Short Course (17.5 unlimited)
Pro 2 Short Course
Pro 4 Short Course (2 cell limit, 550 motor limit, SC tires only)
1/8 Electric
2wd Rookie (RTR motor, 27T brushed or 17.5 no timing/boost)
Sportsman Stock Buggy (17.5 no timing/boost)
Sportsman Stock Truck (17.5 no timing/boost)
Expert Stock Buggy (17.5 unlimited)
Expert Stock 4wd (17.5 unlimited)
Modified Buggy
Modified Truck
Modified 4wd
Sportsman Stock Short Course (17.5 no timing/boost)
Expert Stock Short Course (17.5 unlimited)
Pro 2 Short Course
Pro 4 Short Course (2 cell limit, 550 motor limit, SC tires only)
1/8 Electric
Josh-- I was running up at HRH last night and Jimmy's boosted 17.5 was as fast as my non boosted 10.5 in the intermediate short course class! It might have even been a little faster! I again why do we need to allow boost. For sportsman it is harder to setup and more expensive. Most in sportsman don't really have the skills to run that fast either. There is an expert class to go fast! Who has a 21.5 in there box right now. Everyone has a 17.5 and just turn down your ESC. What is the big deal here. Put racing back in the hands of the driver like stock has been all these years before it became a war of I can get the most out of my super boosted speedo with extra dialed advance timing speed without blowing everything up at $200 a pop.
racing was flourishing in the 90's because, there were only Buggy's and Trucks, and Brushless/Boosting wasn't around to screw things up.
so we could have
novice
intermediate stock
stock
pro stock
sportsman mod
pro mod
all with full classes
But with the addition of
4wd SC
2WD SC
1/8 electric
the classes get diluted
Simple answer
No Timing 17.5 - this is a stock class
Timing /boosting 17.5 should be axed and called Sportsman Mod, run any motor you guys have clearly made the argument that boosted 17.5 is as fast as anything so why the heck are we limiting the motors?
Then a Pro Mod class - This is for the fast and sponsored guys - simple
This would work in 2 WD Short Course because of its large turnout.
For low turnout classes, call it Stock and Mod, stock is no-timing and mod is whatever, because clearly after reading the last few pages it doesn't matter.
I want to run a fair class like non-boosted 17.5 and Mod.
I have read books by professors stating one important thing. "Keep it simple stupid"
Last edited by steam; 12-16-2010 at 01:02 AM.
12-17-2010, 10:56 AM
#66
what about:
sportsman stock buggy, truck, sc = no boost, no sponsored drivers of any type/level (tire, motor, battery)
expert stock buggy, truck, 4wd, sc = boost allowed, no chassis sponsored drivers
sportsman stock buggy, truck, sc = no boost, no sponsored drivers of any type/level (tire, motor, battery)
expert stock buggy, truck, 4wd, sc = boost allowed, no chassis sponsored drivers
Last edited by RA99GT; 12-17-2010 at 02:29 PM. Reason: forgot 4wd under expert stock
12-17-2010, 01:47 PM
#68
The classes look good for 2011.
I am really disappointed
that there is only a Sportsman Stock Truck (17.5 non boosted class) and no Expert Stock Truck (17.5 boosted class). I feel there would be enough people based off of last years Stock Truck entries to fill both a Sportsman Stock Truck and Expert Stock Truck class. A lot of the people who ran Stock Truck in last years series are expert level drivers and they would probably want to run in a 17.5 boosted class (I know I would) and I'm sure the sportsman level drivers would not mind being separated from the experts any how. Hopefully Jimmy reverses his decision and includes an Expert Stock Truck (17.5 boosted class). I will be keeping my fingers crossed 
.
I am really disappointed
that there is only a Sportsman Stock Truck (17.5 non boosted class) and no Expert Stock Truck (17.5 boosted class). I feel there would be enough people based off of last years Stock Truck entries to fill both a Sportsman Stock Truck and Expert Stock Truck class. A lot of the people who ran Stock Truck in last years series are expert level drivers and they would probably want to run in a 17.5 boosted class (I know I would) and I'm sure the sportsman level drivers would not mind being separated from the experts any how. Hopefully Jimmy reverses his decision and includes an Expert Stock Truck (17.5 boosted class). I will be keeping my fingers crossed .
12-17-2010, 01:48 PM
#69
12-17-2010, 04:00 PM
#71
The classes look good for 2011.
I am really disappointed that there is only a Sportsman Stock Truck (17.5 non boosted class) and no Expert Stock Truck (17.5 boosted class). I feel there would be enough people based off of last years Stock Truck entries to fill both a Sportsman Stock Truck and Expert Stock Truck class. A lot of the people who ran Stock Truck in last years series are expert level drivers and they would probably want to run in a 17.5 boosted class (I know I would) and I'm sure the sportsman level drivers would not mind being separated from the experts any how. Hopefully Jimmy reverses his decision and includes an Expert Stock Truck (17.5 boosted class). I will be keeping my fingers crossed .
I am really disappointed
that there is only a Sportsman Stock Truck (17.5 non boosted class) and no Expert Stock Truck (17.5 boosted class). I feel there would be enough people based off of last years Stock Truck entries to fill both a Sportsman Stock Truck and Expert Stock Truck class. A lot of the people who ran Stock Truck in last years series are expert level drivers and they would probably want to run in a 17.5 boosted class (I know I would) and I'm sure the sportsman level drivers would not mind being separated from the experts any how. Hopefully Jimmy reverses his decision and includes an Expert Stock Truck (17.5 boosted class). I will be keeping my fingers crossed .Jimmy, something to consider is that most people running your series are pretty well into the hobby. Most have purchased top of the line r/c gear including "boost" capable ESCs... So now we are supposed to run a non-boosted 17.5 stock truck class at tracks we race club all the time with "boost"?! Doesn't sound like too much fun to me. I'm betting you will see a lot fewer stock trucks out there.. time will tell.
Jerome
12-17-2010, 06:26 PM
#72
if you're a chassis sponsored driver, you shouldn't be running stock or intermediate anything anyway...
Last edited by mkennedy; 12-17-2010 at 06:41 PM.
12-17-2010, 09:01 PM
#73
Ok we listened. Expert stock truck was added!
Also Jimmy is mixing up the points fund for next year as well. Instead of points fund being for each class based on the size of the class, all the money is being pooled and then paid back evenly to each class. So the top 5 in every class will make back the same amount of money regardless of how large the class was for the year.
Also Jimmy is mixing up the points fund for next year as well. Instead of points fund being for each class based on the size of the class, all the money is being pooled and then paid back evenly to each class. So the top 5 in every class will make back the same amount of money regardless of how large the class was for the year.
12-18-2010, 10:34 PM
#74
I'm happy to hear Expert Stock Truck was added . Thanks Jimmy! 
. I'm looking forward to the start of the 2011 JBRL.
. Thanks Jimmy! . I'm looking forward to the start of the 2011 JBRL.
12-18-2010, 11:11 PM
#75
I cant wait either...are you working on a schedule yet? Hopefully it doesnt interfere too much with the kids bdays and holidays...
Got my RC10 gold tub almost ready to do some Sportsman Stock running....I may build a 10T waiting for the series to start.
Got my RC10 gold tub almost ready to do some Sportsman Stock running....I may build a 10T waiting for the series to start.