Unpleasant business from XChange (Franco Rizzo)
#1
Unpleasant business from XChange (Franco Rizzo)
I really love this hobby and this hobby is supposed to make me pleasant, but recent deal with XChange makes me really unpleasant.
I bought Dex410 2010 spec from XChange around Dec 1.
He told me he would attend JConcept clash race, so would ship it on Dec 12 and I said that is fine.
But he sent it Dec 19 and kept saying he sent it Dec 12.
I can not attach the receipt because of the file size.
He added a Ko propo servo and said it is $170.00 value because of the late shipping.
But he put silver-colored aluminum top case to make it look like $170 valued servo, but I have no idea what kind of Ko propo servo is. I think it is a discontinued Ko propo servo.
The item he sent me is really different from the pictures.
He described that this buggy is 3 raced old Dex410 2010 spec and, therefore I assumed it is a pretty good condition.
At least, I expect he would ship it as he advertised.
However, the outdrives were severely deformed, and the one raced old carbon chassis is damaged, and the car does not have a rear center alu. diff mount that should be included in 2010 spec.
He said a plastic diff mount provides a better flex. He may like a flexible chassis type, but I prefer a stiff chassis setting. Moreover, this part should be included in 2010 spec. Otherwise he should mention that this car does not include the alu. Diff mount.
In the picture, he posted a brand new painted body and rear wing, but what I received is a severely used one and rear wing was torn off. Now, I got several emails from him today, and he said that he didn’t say it is a brand new body although he posted a brand new. Also, he said that it is a used car and do not expect everything is fresh.
I didn’t expect everything is fresh, but want to get the item as he described.
When I received the car, I suggested two options,
either full refund or sending me the damaged and missing parts since it is really different from his advertisement.
He agreed he would send those parts. He sent me some parts, but I am still waiting for the rest.
I sent money to him on Dec 1, but still waiting for missing parts (today is Feb 9).
All I want from him is two pairs of outdrives and a rear alu. Center diff mount that is supposed to be included in 2010 spec. He kept saying that his local hobby shop doesn’t have it although he ordered them. I don’t know how long I should wait for getting these parts although most online stores carry these parts.
Am I really an ass hole?
I was really nice for the first time, but he took advantage of my generosity. For example, when I sent emails with nice attitude, he didn’t reply at all or replied very late. If I express how much I am angry, then he replied.
Therefore, I became angry finally.
I am pretty sure he sells a lot of R/C gears here and be careful when you make a deal with him.
I bought Dex410 2010 spec from XChange around Dec 1.
He told me he would attend JConcept clash race, so would ship it on Dec 12 and I said that is fine.
But he sent it Dec 19 and kept saying he sent it Dec 12.
I can not attach the receipt because of the file size.
He added a Ko propo servo and said it is $170.00 value because of the late shipping.
But he put silver-colored aluminum top case to make it look like $170 valued servo, but I have no idea what kind of Ko propo servo is. I think it is a discontinued Ko propo servo.
The item he sent me is really different from the pictures.
He described that this buggy is 3 raced old Dex410 2010 spec and, therefore I assumed it is a pretty good condition.
At least, I expect he would ship it as he advertised.
However, the outdrives were severely deformed, and the one raced old carbon chassis is damaged, and the car does not have a rear center alu. diff mount that should be included in 2010 spec.
He said a plastic diff mount provides a better flex. He may like a flexible chassis type, but I prefer a stiff chassis setting. Moreover, this part should be included in 2010 spec. Otherwise he should mention that this car does not include the alu. Diff mount.
In the picture, he posted a brand new painted body and rear wing, but what I received is a severely used one and rear wing was torn off. Now, I got several emails from him today, and he said that he didn’t say it is a brand new body although he posted a brand new. Also, he said that it is a used car and do not expect everything is fresh.
I didn’t expect everything is fresh, but want to get the item as he described.
When I received the car, I suggested two options,
either full refund or sending me the damaged and missing parts since it is really different from his advertisement.
He agreed he would send those parts. He sent me some parts, but I am still waiting for the rest.
I sent money to him on Dec 1, but still waiting for missing parts (today is Feb 9).
All I want from him is two pairs of outdrives and a rear alu. Center diff mount that is supposed to be included in 2010 spec. He kept saying that his local hobby shop doesn’t have it although he ordered them. I don’t know how long I should wait for getting these parts although most online stores carry these parts.
Am I really an ass hole?
I was really nice for the first time, but he took advantage of my generosity. For example, when I sent emails with nice attitude, he didn’t reply at all or replied very late. If I express how much I am angry, then he replied.
Therefore, I became angry finally.
I am pretty sure he sells a lot of R/C gears here and be careful when you make a deal with him.
#2
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maybe you want me to post all the email you sent to me... with the treath and harrassement ?
Please people, just read this thread :
http://www.rctech.net/forum/trader-f...lem-buyer.html
And note, you have only 4post... i have 600+ post... and 4 trader ratting... if really i m a bad seller or buyer, then everybody should have put a bad rating... uh?
I'm sorry but playing the victim as you do, didn't work anymore with me.. i make a lot of effort to make you happy but you didn't even respect my opinion.
You should know that a car ran in the dirt, can have some mark on the frame!
But BE CAREFULL... by doing this, you SLANDERING...and i dont accept that!
Please people, just read this thread :
http://www.rctech.net/forum/trader-f...lem-buyer.html
And note, you have only 4post... i have 600+ post... and 4 trader ratting... if really i m a bad seller or buyer, then everybody should have put a bad rating... uh?
I'm sorry but playing the victim as you do, didn't work anymore with me.. i make a lot of effort to make you happy but you didn't even respect my opinion.
You should know that a car ran in the dirt, can have some mark on the frame!
But BE CAREFULL... by doing this, you SLANDERING...and i dont accept that!
Last edited by Xchange; 02-09-2012 at 04:03 PM.
#3
I really love this hobby and this hobby is supposed to make me pleasant, but recent deal with XChange makes me really unpleasant.
I bought Dex410 2010 spec from XChange around Dec 1.
He told me he would attend JConcept clash race, so would ship it on Dec 12 and I said that is fine.
But he sent it Dec 19 and kept saying he sent it Dec 12.
I can not attach the receipt because of the file size.
He added a Ko propo servo and said it is $170.00 value because of the late shipping.
But he put silver-colored aluminum top case to make it look like $170 valued servo, but I have no idea what kind of Ko propo servo is. I think it is a discontinued Ko propo servo.
The item he sent me is really different from the pictures.
He described that this buggy is 3 raced old Dex410 2010 spec and, therefore I assumed it is a pretty good condition.
At least, I expect he would ship it as he advertised.
However, the outdrives were severely deformed, and the one raced old carbon chassis is damaged, and the car does not have a rear center alu. diff mount that should be included in 2010 spec.
He said a plastic diff mount provides a better flex. He may like a flexible chassis type, but I prefer a stiff chassis setting. Moreover, this part should be included in 2010 spec. Otherwise he should mention that this car does not include the alu. Diff mount.
In the picture, he posted a brand new painted body and rear wing, but what I received is a severely used one and rear wing was torn off. Now, I got several emails from him today, and he said that he didn’t say it is a brand new body although he posted a brand new. Also, he said that it is a used car and do not expect everything is fresh.
I didn’t expect everything is fresh, but want to get the item as he described.
When I received the car, I suggested two options,
either full refund or sending me the damaged and missing parts since it is really different from his advertisement.
He agreed he would send those parts. He sent me some parts, but I am still waiting for the rest.
I sent money to him on Dec 1, but still waiting for missing parts (today is Feb 9).
All I want from him is two pairs of outdrives and a rear alu. Center diff mount that is supposed to be included in 2010 spec. He kept saying that his local hobby shop doesn’t have it although he ordered them. I don’t know how long I should wait for getting these parts although most online stores carry these parts.
Am I really an ass hole?
I was really nice for the first time, but he took advantage of my generosity. For example, when I sent emails with nice attitude, he didn’t reply at all or replied very late. If I express how much I am angry, then he replied.
Therefore, I became angry finally.
I am pretty sure he sells a lot of R/C gears here and be careful when you make a deal with him.
I bought Dex410 2010 spec from XChange around Dec 1.
He told me he would attend JConcept clash race, so would ship it on Dec 12 and I said that is fine.
But he sent it Dec 19 and kept saying he sent it Dec 12.
I can not attach the receipt because of the file size.
He added a Ko propo servo and said it is $170.00 value because of the late shipping.
But he put silver-colored aluminum top case to make it look like $170 valued servo, but I have no idea what kind of Ko propo servo is. I think it is a discontinued Ko propo servo.
The item he sent me is really different from the pictures.
He described that this buggy is 3 raced old Dex410 2010 spec and, therefore I assumed it is a pretty good condition.
At least, I expect he would ship it as he advertised.
However, the outdrives were severely deformed, and the one raced old carbon chassis is damaged, and the car does not have a rear center alu. diff mount that should be included in 2010 spec.
He said a plastic diff mount provides a better flex. He may like a flexible chassis type, but I prefer a stiff chassis setting. Moreover, this part should be included in 2010 spec. Otherwise he should mention that this car does not include the alu. Diff mount.
In the picture, he posted a brand new painted body and rear wing, but what I received is a severely used one and rear wing was torn off. Now, I got several emails from him today, and he said that he didn’t say it is a brand new body although he posted a brand new. Also, he said that it is a used car and do not expect everything is fresh.
I didn’t expect everything is fresh, but want to get the item as he described.
When I received the car, I suggested two options,
either full refund or sending me the damaged and missing parts since it is really different from his advertisement.
He agreed he would send those parts. He sent me some parts, but I am still waiting for the rest.
I sent money to him on Dec 1, but still waiting for missing parts (today is Feb 9).
All I want from him is two pairs of outdrives and a rear alu. Center diff mount that is supposed to be included in 2010 spec. He kept saying that his local hobby shop doesn’t have it although he ordered them. I don’t know how long I should wait for getting these parts although most online stores carry these parts.
Am I really an ass hole?
I was really nice for the first time, but he took advantage of my generosity. For example, when I sent emails with nice attitude, he didn’t reply at all or replied very late. If I express how much I am angry, then he replied.
Therefore, I became angry finally.
I am pretty sure he sells a lot of R/C gears here and be careful when you make a deal with him.
By the way, i'm not taking sides, just making a suggestion.
#4
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These two threads you guys have started are pointless. The seller has now deleted the contents of his ad so no one can see or read what was supposedly bought, and the buyer can't take the time to post pictures of what he received to prove anything wrong has been done.
So basically the two of you are here bitching at each other in public, and for what? To sway our opinion over your "Bad" deal? Without any proof of what happened, it's just you two bitching.
I think you're both doing your reps damage. Personally, I don't think I'd buy from either of you at this point, and I'm sure that wasn't your intention when you started this thread. Post some proof (PICTURES!! AND THE ORIGINAL AD), if you want help from the community in deciding what to do. Otherwise, you should settle it between yourselves off the forum.
So basically the two of you are here bitching at each other in public, and for what? To sway our opinion over your "Bad" deal? Without any proof of what happened, it's just you two bitching.
I think you're both doing your reps damage. Personally, I don't think I'd buy from either of you at this point, and I'm sure that wasn't your intention when you started this thread. Post some proof (PICTURES!! AND THE ORIGINAL AD), if you want help from the community in deciding what to do. Otherwise, you should settle it between yourselves off the forum.
#5
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These two threads you guys have started are pointless. The seller has now deleted the contents of his ad so no one can see or read what was supposedly bought, and the buyer can't take the time to post pictures of what he received to prove anything wrong has been done.
So basically the two of you are here bitching at each other in public, and for what? To sway our opinion over your "Bad" deal? Without any proof of what happened, it's just you two bitching.
I think you're both doing your reps damage. Personally, I don't think I'd buy from either of you at this point, and I'm sure that wasn't your intention when you started this thread. Post some proof (PICTURES!! AND THE ORIGINAL AD), if you want help from the community in deciding what to do. Otherwise, you should settle it between yourselves off the forum.
So basically the two of you are here bitching at each other in public, and for what? To sway our opinion over your "Bad" deal? Without any proof of what happened, it's just you two bitching.
I think you're both doing your reps damage. Personally, I don't think I'd buy from either of you at this point, and I'm sure that wasn't your intention when you started this thread. Post some proof (PICTURES!! AND THE ORIGINAL AD), if you want help from the community in deciding what to do. Otherwise, you should settle it between yourselves off the forum.
This is the pictures of the item i advised :
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So is what's in the pictures EXACTLY what you sent him? An uncut, unmounted WED Designs body? If not I would have an issue with that for sure!
The buggy itself looks good, exact parts..not huge issue IMO..again assuming that's exactly how it looked when the buyer got it.
The buggy itself looks good, exact parts..not huge issue IMO..again assuming that's exactly how it looked when the buyer got it.
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And, the body when i shipped the box, was usable, the only problem, the rear hole to clip it was broked and put some velcro on it. but still completly usable and in good shape.
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At this point, I think you need to post what you said you were shipping, and Trinity75 you have GOT to post some pictures of what you received if you'd like the guys reading this thread to give you an opinion. They also should be decent pictures. Blurry pictures never help anyone's argument.
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well without a link to an unedited original for sale post this thread is going to go nowhere and is pointless, IMO.
So why didn't you post pics of the car in it's current/shipped condition "to show the paint" doesn't make sense to me
So why didn't you post pics of the car in it's current/shipped condition "to show the paint" doesn't make sense to me
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You really shouldn't have deleted the text of your ad, it only looks bad now. I know in the other post you said this was "3 races old", so the body wasn't going to be like new, but was it 3 races old, or 3 race weekends old? To me, that's a huge difference. Are those the only pictures you had in the ad? Were there any of the car in the condition as it was going to be shipped? Did you disclose in the ad that some parts were worn out?
At this point, I think you need to post what you said you were shipping, and Trinity75 you have GOT to post some pictures of what you received if you'd like the guys reading this thread to give you an opinion. They also should be decent pictures. Blurry pictures never help anyone's argument.
At this point, I think you need to post what you said you were shipping, and Trinity75 you have GOT to post some pictures of what you received if you'd like the guys reading this thread to give you an opinion. They also should be decent pictures. Blurry pictures never help anyone's argument.
No i did'nt even realize the part was worn when i put in the box.. but i had tons of spare parts and trinity had everything to put back in place. again... i admited i should prepare the car before shipping and check everything.. but i didn't .. and for that, i appologize to trinity. And i suggest to replace what was to replace.. this is what i does... but some parts was to order and as i said in my tread, they was BO from HRP and amain...
Now they are back in stock so my hobbyshop should receive the requested parts.. but in any case.. i can accept somebody to make treath or harrassement or talking like a shit... this is not acceptable from my point of view!
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did you actually post pics in your ad of the buggy and body in it's current actual condition when you shipped it or not?
Was the buggy fresh and clean like the above pic or was it sent after pulling it from the track without cleaning it?
Nobody who buys anything wants or cares about pics taken when an item is new or just cleaned, we want pics of what you're sending..Period!
Was the buggy fresh and clean like the above pic or was it sent after pulling it from the track without cleaning it?
Nobody who buys anything wants or cares about pics taken when an item is new or just cleaned, we want pics of what you're sending..Period!
Last edited by racer1812; 02-10-2012 at 11:46 PM.