F1 is on the rise!
#1
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F1 is on the rise!
2012 was a busy year for F1 in Oz and now that we have a set of national rules it's looking to explode in 2013!
Here's a list of events running F1 classes just in the next month:
1. Racing Lines International, Auckland
2. SummerNats at Fairy Meadow, NSW
3. West Coast Asphalt Attack, Perth, WA
4. Templestowe Community Bank Masters, TFTR, Melbourne, VIC
For links to these events visit www.rcformula1.com.au
The Challenge Cup Series will run F1 across their multi-track series in NSW and the VIC Cup Series will be back bigger than ever, also across multiple tracks. Both will run the national rules.
Now that clubs are moving towards the same rules it might even be possible to run an interstate event.
Yep, 2013 looks like a great year for F1.
To find a track near you that runs F1 check out our Where to Race page:
And here's a teaser video to get the F1 juices flowing
Here's a list of events running F1 classes just in the next month:
1. Racing Lines International, Auckland
2. SummerNats at Fairy Meadow, NSW
3. West Coast Asphalt Attack, Perth, WA
4. Templestowe Community Bank Masters, TFTR, Melbourne, VIC
For links to these events visit www.rcformula1.com.au
The Challenge Cup Series will run F1 across their multi-track series in NSW and the VIC Cup Series will be back bigger than ever, also across multiple tracks. Both will run the national rules.
Now that clubs are moving towards the same rules it might even be possible to run an interstate event.
Yep, 2013 looks like a great year for F1.
To find a track near you that runs F1 check out our Where to Race page:
And here's a teaser video to get the F1 juices flowing
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#2
Tech Adept
" F1 the new 12th scale "
So a good start to the year at Summernats in Fairymeadow the demo class of F1 is larger than the sanctioned of 12th scale.
With another big year for CC with introduction of F1 who knows how big it will get.
A suggestion regarding an interstate event is a great idea, so watch this space for further news.
So a good start to the year at Summernats in Fairymeadow the demo class of F1 is larger than the sanctioned of 12th scale.
With another big year for CC with introduction of F1 who knows how big it will get.
A suggestion regarding an interstate event is a great idea, so watch this space for further news.
#3
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" F1 the new 12th scale "
So a good start to the year at Summernats in Fairymeadow the demo class of F1 is larger than the sanctioned of 12th scale.
With another big year for CC with introduction of F1 who knows how big it will get.
A suggestion regarding an interstate event is a great idea, so watch this space for further news.
So a good start to the year at Summernats in Fairymeadow the demo class of F1 is larger than the sanctioned of 12th scale.
With another big year for CC with introduction of F1 who knows how big it will get.
A suggestion regarding an interstate event is a great idea, so watch this space for further news.
It's also completely inappropriate to compare the numbers for those two classes at the Summer Nats given the format each of them is being run in. F1 is running as a 21.5 blinky format, while 12th is open Mod. If I look at the percentage of entries compared to the equivalent Touring classes I get a completely different result:
F1: 9, TC 21.5 Blinky: 22 = 41%
12th: 7, TC Mod: 10 = 70%
And I dare say the result would be even less flattering for F1 if the 21.5 blinky TC class wasn't limited to 20 entries.
My point is, of course, that F1 is being run with a beginner's motor format, 12th is being run with an expert's motor format, and there are far more beginners around than experts.
It's an encouraging start for F1 given its Demo status at the meeting, but to claim F1 is the new 12th is ridiculous. The classes are completely different, and the motor format doesn't allow comparison.
Edit: for those reading this in the future, the final entry numbers at the Summer Nats were:
F1: 13, 21.5 TC: 22 (59%) (21.5 TC was limited to 20 entries, so 2 people missed out.)
12th: 11, Mod TC: 10 (110%)
Last edited by Radio Active; 01-14-2013 at 05:15 PM. Reason: Added final Summer Nats entry numbers.
#4
Entries haven't closed yet for the Summer Nats, and 9 for F1 and 7 for 12th is hardly an unassailable lead.
It's also completely inappropriate to compare the numbers for those two classes at the Summer Nats given the format each of them is being run in. F1 is running as a 21.5 blinky format, while 12th is open Mod. If I look at the percentage of entries compared to the equivalent Touring classes I get a completely different result:
F1: 9, TC 21.5 Blinky: 22 = 41%
12th: 7, TC Mod: 10 = 70%
And I dare say the result would be even less flattering for F1 if the 21.5 blinky TC class wasn't limited to 20 entries.
My point is, of course, that F1 is being run with a beginner's motor format, 12th is being run with an expert's motor format, and there are far more beginners around than experts.
It's an encouraging start for F1 given its Demo status at the meeting, but to claim F1 is the new 12th is ridiculous. The classes are completely different, and the motor format doesn't allow comparison.
It's also completely inappropriate to compare the numbers for those two classes at the Summer Nats given the format each of them is being run in. F1 is running as a 21.5 blinky format, while 12th is open Mod. If I look at the percentage of entries compared to the equivalent Touring classes I get a completely different result:
F1: 9, TC 21.5 Blinky: 22 = 41%
12th: 7, TC Mod: 10 = 70%
And I dare say the result would be even less flattering for F1 if the 21.5 blinky TC class wasn't limited to 20 entries.
My point is, of course, that F1 is being run with a beginner's motor format, 12th is being run with an expert's motor format, and there are far more beginners around than experts.
It's an encouraging start for F1 given its Demo status at the meeting, but to claim F1 is the new 12th is ridiculous. The classes are completely different, and the motor format doesn't allow comparison.
+1
#5
Such a swift response!
#6
Tech Adept
Slower than I expected
#7
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Don't you think it is a little irresponsible to bait me? How about we leave this thread for people enthusiastic about F1 and not try and turn it into a competition between F1 and 12th or F1 and Mini (the other rubber 2wd class), or F1 RC and F1 static modelling or anything else.
#9
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I've only missed about 3 races in the last 5 years on TV. 2 of those were last year though. I still like watching the sport, but the current rules don't get me as excited as I used to be. I'll still be checking out the pre-season testing times and such, and F1Fanatic is my 5th most visited website so I think that qualifies me as enthusiastic. As far as RC, I drove F1 for years, including a whole season in Newcastle when the most other F1 cars I had to race against was 2. You need a certain level of enthusiasm to do that.
#10
Though perhaps not quite the level of enthusiasm shown towards 1/12 scale! Please note that's not a criticism, you're enthusiasm for what has generally been a less well supported class is admirable. But you do tend to jump pretty hard when somebody makes a disparaging comment on 1/12.
#11
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Though perhaps not quite the level of enthusiasm shown towards 1/12 scale! Please note that's not a criticism, you're enthusiasm for what has generally been a less well supported class is admirable. But you do tend to jump pretty hard when somebody makes a disparaging comment on 1/12.
And because this is an F1 thread I'll give equal time. F1 is a class for enthusiasts, it's a link with the World's most popular motor sport and has the potential to bring motorsport people into RC with the realistic looks of the cars (some more than others). F1 is the only open wheel onroad class, and that leads to a different style of racing. Also, because of the speed of F1 cars, and the speed of 21.5 F1 it's pretty much the only class where the speeds are scale, so on track they can look like the real thing. Even the accidents look realistic – a broken front wing is pretty common in the real thing. F1s use standard electronics, and can be either a pan car or one with IRS if that's your game, they're versatile, and are really the last 10th scale pan class left standing (though some still have enthusiasm for WGT). The high profile rubber tyres make them somewhat insensitive to tuning and therefore hard to completely detune, meaning everyone can more or less get an F1 car around a track with the right tyres. In short it's a class for fun for everyone from the beginner to the more experienced interested in scale looks.
#12
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Since my return to racing a couple of years ago, I've noted that F1 has been a very popular class at the club I mostly race at.
I think there are a couple factors behind the rising popularity of the class, these are my observations only though.
For those who also race touring cars the choice of F1 as an additional or alternative format to run could be a logical choice.
* Electrics, the esc & batteries are transferable between touring & F1 cars, they both utilise 2 cell batteries along with 2 cell esc's. They may even share the same motor (21.5) and steering servo.
This could be an deciding factor for those seeking to race a different class but doesn't want to go out and buy additional electronics, especially if they have some spare not being utilised.
*Scale appearance, I've also noted that there is a good percentage of F1 cars painted in the colours & styles of their full size versions, even going as far as painting the drivers helmet to match.
I'm sure there are other factors too, but even with an entry level class of motor there is a distinct degree of skill required to have close racing with an open wheel car, where rubbing wheels with another car or clipping a track barrier could lead to very unfavorable results.
Cheers
Rob.
p.s. And to Rob Benz - The answer is still no, I'm not getting a F1 car
I think there are a couple factors behind the rising popularity of the class, these are my observations only though.
For those who also race touring cars the choice of F1 as an additional or alternative format to run could be a logical choice.
* Electrics, the esc & batteries are transferable between touring & F1 cars, they both utilise 2 cell batteries along with 2 cell esc's. They may even share the same motor (21.5) and steering servo.
This could be an deciding factor for those seeking to race a different class but doesn't want to go out and buy additional electronics, especially if they have some spare not being utilised.
*Scale appearance, I've also noted that there is a good percentage of F1 cars painted in the colours & styles of their full size versions, even going as far as painting the drivers helmet to match.
I'm sure there are other factors too, but even with an entry level class of motor there is a distinct degree of skill required to have close racing with an open wheel car, where rubbing wheels with another car or clipping a track barrier could lead to very unfavorable results.
Cheers
Rob.
p.s. And to Rob Benz - The answer is still no, I'm not getting a F1 car
#13
I've never had a go at 1/12, probably largely due to the misconceptions you refer to. An ill handling pan car always looked like a genuinely frustrating implement! Having said that I am achieving that level of frustration with torque steer on my fgx now...
#14
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I commend you! I used to be in the same boat, trying to convince everyone at my local club to try 12th, as It's such a great class. I've seen lots of drivers enter the 12th class all enthusiastic, but don't quite get their car setup to how they want it, get frustrated and leave the class... then occasionally there are a few who come out the other side and get to the enjoyable side of it. It is by far my favourite class, but had to ditch it for about 2 years and join the popular classes, but then the pro12 itch got too much again haha.
My local club is the North Harbour Radio control car club in Auckland where the 2013 Racing Lines International is going to be held (a few aussie drivers coming over ).
Numbers at my local club, on a club day have varied greatly from being the biggest class a few years ago, to having none at all 2 years ago, and now 12th having a nation wide resurgence.
The same happened at the NZ nationals, where there just weren't enough entries to run the F1 class back at around 2008, and in 2011 there were 27 entries at the nationals.
I think the thing that has greatly helped the pro12 class here is the stepping stone from F1 to Pro12. Since the pro10 class was dead over here we decided to revive it and limit it to 13.5t brushless. This provides an easy to drive pan car, with a medium power band. People love these, then when they want more power and more of a challenge they look at the pro12 class.
A few people I know don't even run touring cars, but 12th, f1 and pro10
We don't run traction additive over here. One day i'd like to go to an aussie nats and race 12th, but that's a pipe dream at the moment
I hope to have a bunch of pan car footage for you guys after this weekend
My local club is the North Harbour Radio control car club in Auckland where the 2013 Racing Lines International is going to be held (a few aussie drivers coming over ).
Numbers at my local club, on a club day have varied greatly from being the biggest class a few years ago, to having none at all 2 years ago, and now 12th having a nation wide resurgence.
The same happened at the NZ nationals, where there just weren't enough entries to run the F1 class back at around 2008, and in 2011 there were 27 entries at the nationals.
I think the thing that has greatly helped the pro12 class here is the stepping stone from F1 to Pro12. Since the pro10 class was dead over here we decided to revive it and limit it to 13.5t brushless. This provides an easy to drive pan car, with a medium power band. People love these, then when they want more power and more of a challenge they look at the pro12 class.
A few people I know don't even run touring cars, but 12th, f1 and pro10
We don't run traction additive over here. One day i'd like to go to an aussie nats and race 12th, but that's a pipe dream at the moment
I hope to have a bunch of pan car footage for you guys after this weekend
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Entries haven't closed yet for the Summer Nats, and 9 for F1 and 7 for 12th is hardly an unassailable lead.
It's also completely inappropriate to compare the numbers for those two classes at the Summer Nats given the format each of them is being run in. F1 is running as a 21.5 blinky format, while 12th is open Mod. If I look at the percentage of entries compared to the equivalent Touring classes I get a completely different result:
F1: 9, TC 21.5 Blinky: 22 = 41%
12th: 7, TC Mod: 10 = 70%
And I dare say the result would be even less flattering for F1 if the 21.5 blinky TC class wasn't limited to 20 entries.
My point is, of course, that F1 is being run with a beginner's motor format, 12th is being run with an expert's motor format, and there are far more beginners around than experts.
It's an encouraging start for F1 given its Demo status at the meeting, but to claim F1 is the new 12th is ridiculous. The classes are completely different, and the motor format doesn't allow comparison.
It's also completely inappropriate to compare the numbers for those two classes at the Summer Nats given the format each of them is being run in. F1 is running as a 21.5 blinky format, while 12th is open Mod. If I look at the percentage of entries compared to the equivalent Touring classes I get a completely different result:
F1: 9, TC 21.5 Blinky: 22 = 41%
12th: 7, TC Mod: 10 = 70%
And I dare say the result would be even less flattering for F1 if the 21.5 blinky TC class wasn't limited to 20 entries.
My point is, of course, that F1 is being run with a beginner's motor format, 12th is being run with an expert's motor format, and there are far more beginners around than experts.
It's an encouraging start for F1 given its Demo status at the meeting, but to claim F1 is the new 12th is ridiculous. The classes are completely different, and the motor format doesn't allow comparison.