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Old 12-01-2004, 09:09 PM   #31
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I am not particularly fussed either way - I wanted a list of motors and Aust didn't have one so I went looking and found one that will serve my purposes.
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Old 12-01-2004, 10:01 PM   #32
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How about a spec 19turn series, using something like the Trinity Chameleon 19 turn motor?

Basically a 19x1 armature in a monster stock can, so 24 degree locked timing.

Cheap and cheerful - and a nice step between stock and mod. And no need to spend stupid amounts of money trying to get that final edge over your competition.

Armature tag for easy identification, too...

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Old 12-02-2004, 12:07 AM   #33
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people should not be limted to one motor there is also the reedy which has looked timing
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Old 12-02-2004, 01:29 AM   #34
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as far as i read with those roar rules is that the 19t is 24degree fixed timing but i and some of my friends have the epic outlaw 19t but it has got the adjustable timing. so if we do bring in the rules for the 19t class in aust i will have to protest if they say it is only fixed timing aloud.
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Old 12-02-2004, 05:05 AM   #35
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Easy rules to follow for 19 turn,

Use a 19 TURN motor

I hope this is the rule at EC & nothing more.
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Old 12-02-2004, 02:54 PM   #36
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it's good to see all the interesting feed back on this class.
Hopefully when the new indoor track opens we will try to make it one of the stronger classes not purley for our interest but
as to introduce a resonably fast and inexpensive new class of racing to sydney.

Don't worry all you 540 and local stock guns, no need to toss out
your motors out yet guys.
We will definatly have a class for you!
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Old 12-02-2004, 02:54 PM   #37
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Easy rules to follow for 19 turn,

Use a 19 TURN motor

I hope this is the rule at EC & nothing more.
Totally agree.

As is the case with stock racing, there are a lot of rules regarding motors in the class (I have been runnig stock for a long time and am more than happy to follow these rules. Rules are not a bad thing)

I think that if the 19t class has similar rules to stock (24 degree timing etc.) it will become two much like stock racing.

Open up 19t to...any 19t motor.
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i will have to agree with pro4 and say that if its does become close to stock 27t it will become to much like stock...wop di Freckin' do!
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Old 12-02-2004, 05:36 PM   #39
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as far as i read with those roar rules is that the 19t is 24degree fixed timing but i and some of my friends have the epic outlaw 19t but it has got the adjustable timing. so if we do bring in the rules for the 19t class in aust i will have to protest if they say it is only fixed timing aloud.
protest if u must.

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i will have to agree with pro4 and say that if its does become close to stock 27t it will become to much like stock...wop di Freckin' do!
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what ever the rules are, i would like to see bearings not bushings
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all the 19t rules i have seen so far include bearings. Bushings are a prehistoric invention and should not be in any form of racing motor.
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Agree with Brad, bearings are it, We even allow bearings in rebuildable stock in Queensland.
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A lower turn motor with little advance timing (fixed) seems to make more sense than a 27T with 24 deg... 27T =stock probably just came about bcs the mabuchi 540 was 27T anyway...
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I'm sorry but you need some sort of rules for a spec class.

Otherwise there is nothing stopping anyone turning up with a 17t arm marked as a 19t. Then it will be a different guage wire on the arm.

If you allow adjustable timimg, then the cost will increase, due to brushes being burnt every run.

By controlling the class, it will stop the evolution of motors to a certain degree.
If it's too free you'll end up buying new motors every month when a faster one becomes available.
If you wish to keep it for what it is, ( an inexpensive step-up) then things like tagged arms,fixed timimg, guage of wire etc, need to be controlled.

The spec19 motors just seem like the logical choice, as all the work has been done by the adminstrators over there. There is only a handful to choose from, and by all reports, they are all competitive. Can it be any easier.

When rules are decided, you can protest all you want, once there set, that's it, I hope. Anyway....you can't please everyone.

If you want all these freedom in the rules, then go race modified, Simple!!!!!!

P.S. It's nothing like stock, it's Spec 19 turn.
Like the stock class it should be about car set up and driving, not batteries and motor like mod.
This is the idea behind it. A stepping stone, to increase your abilities, to make the progression to mod a little less shocking!

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