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Just a quick one, once a battery has official sanction (e.g. Roar Approval), does it need the sticker on the hard case to validate it, or as long as the battery is on the list, it should be ok?

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unfortuneatly it has to have the sticker on it as that proves the battery hasnt been tampered with. You refering to turnigy ones?
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Originally Posted by mtbkym01
Just a quick one, once a battery has official sanction (e.g. Roar Approval), does it need the sticker on the hard case to validate it, or as long as the battery is on the list, it should be ok?

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To be AARCMCC approved: No it DOES NOT.

However, it must be on a published list, and have been there for 30 days. If the battery is approved but the updated list isn't yet published the battery isn't legal even if it has a sticker on it. That's for onroad.

For offroad the situation is slightly different. The pack has to be on an Australian list according to the rules, but by convention the Australian list is the ROAR or BRCA list. However, there is an additional requirement here that the pack be rated at no more than 6000 mAh capacity. So even if it is on the list, has been there, has a sticker etc. If it is greater than 6000 mAh it's not legal. The same goes in offroad or onroad for batteries outside dimension.
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http://www.roarracing.com/downloads/..._Rule_Book.pdf

Page 38 8.3.2.2

Both the top and bottom sections of the case must be secured
together by glue, double-sided tape or heat seal with a label across the seam
stating "ROAR Approved" in such a manner that separation of the case to
remove or replace the cells will destroy the case and/or label and render it
unusable in competition.

Thats just a small section of the rule, so yes it does need that sticker on it
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Thatīs ROAR rules not AARCMCC.
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Bugle has it correct. It doesn't have to meet ROAR rules, only AARCMCC rules. And the AARCMCC rules simply demand that the pack is on the list, not that it comply with other ROAR or BRCA rules.
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Default Yes, Turnigy's and Zippy's

So the existing Turnigy's and Zippy's at say 4000 or 5000 mah rating will be legal once they have been published on the list, makes sense, as it's not as though all those packs are individually inspected at manufacture, then approved with the sticker.

I'm guessing the manufacture process wouldn't have changed on the packs, just the manufacturer has submitted the packs to the relevant authority to have them approved.
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Originally Posted by mtbkym01
So the existing Turnigy's and Zippy's at say 4000 or 5000 mah rating will be legal once they have been published on the list,
Yes, 30 days after the approval date listed, after the list is published they will be legal to use at sanctioned meetings in Australia.
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Originally Posted by Radio Active
Yes, 30 days after the approval date listed, after the list is published they will be legal to use at sanctioned meetings in Australia.
Still waiting for ROAR to update their list of approved batteries to show the Turnigy ones.

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I'll be more interested to see if the 'new' Nano-Tech hardcase packs end up on the ROAR list sometime soon, bought a couple for testing and they work rather well...
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After I saw on the Hobbyking website that the Turnigy batts were legal, I emailed Fred Howart at ROAR (July 4th) and he informed me that Turnigy batteries are not ROAR approved.
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Originally Posted by Dan the Man
After I saw on the Hobbyking website that the Turnigy batts were legal, I emailed Fred Howart at ROAR (July 4th) and he informed me that Turnigy batteries are not ROAR approved.
Well that's interesting
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Originally Posted by mtbkym01
Well that's interesting
That it is.
If Turnigy is saying their batteries are ROAR approved when they are not I wonder if there could be any legal ramifications? (false advertising etc)

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Originally Posted by ta04evah
That it is.
If Turnigy is saying their batteries are ROAR approved when they are not I wonder if there could be any legal ramifications? (false advertising etc)

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It wouldn't surprise me .... Hobbyking has been a pain to the industry for quite a while

Previously ROAR required the ROAR Approved sticker to be put on the lipo before it was approved (at submission stage). maybe this is what they have done. Have they actually said they are ROAR approved or simply shown a picture with the label on the lipo?
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Originally Posted by cannon
It wouldn't surprise me .... Hobbyking has been a pain to the industry for quite a while

Previously ROAR required the ROAR Approved sticker to be put on the lipo before it was approved (at submission stage). maybe this is what they have done. Have they actually said they are ROAR approved or simply shown a picture with the label on the lipo?
Yes they do state that they are roar approved

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...Approved_.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...Approved_.html
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