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Old 06-09-2015, 04:46 PM   #1
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Default 2015 Hobbyking Castle Hill Vintage Festival Sept. 26 & 27

Hello all Vintage RC car enthusiasts!! The Castle Hill Off Road committee is proud to announce that it will be hosting the 2015 Vintage Festival on September 26 and 27

This year as with last we have been listening to feedback and looking at class numbers (the best feedback there is) so in the efforts of tweaking the event to make it even better this year, here is a summary of the changes

Pipe frame – Pipe frame was awesome in 2014, a couple of chain drives joined the mix and the class was well represented, for 2015 we’re allowing the entry level 4wds in and calling it something else (name to be determined but we’ll call it 4wd Misfits for the moment) so dust off your thundershot series buggy or Mugen, nikko, AYK, SG, Royal Ripper, Nichimo, Hirobo or Marui and give it a go!! There will be a breakout time for the class (which means a minimum lap time) so if your car goes faster than the breakout lap time you’ll be encouraged to either move it up to 4wd 540 or de-tune your car. If you’re unsure if your car is eligible, please pm me, (Hint; a Nikko Brat up works spec’d should be in 4wd 540)

Trucks: We’re cutting down the number of truck classes this year to one all-in knock em down, drag em out fight, all vintage and classic trucks will be eligible for the class simply known as Stadium Truck. The motor will 13.5 turn brushless using an esc with stock spec Zero timing (blinky mode) or any brushed motor 19 turns or greater. We’re going to have a sub-class for entry level trucks or early trucks based off buggies that run the same track width as the buggy from which it was based but just has wider wheels. We’ll be putting a list together shortly but essentially Blitzers, king cabs, shotguns, outlaw raiders and Futaba FXT will be eligible. Anything else that you have that you think might be ok please pm me and we’ll look at it on a case by case basis but suffice to say all Losi, Associated and Traxxas trucks will run in the main class. Also please note if you rock up with a Blitzer and win truck, you take home the trophy for the class and the medal for the entry level trucks and a huge amount of kudos from us!!

2wd stock Purist: this class was received very well by the racers and everyone seemed to enjoy themselves out there sliding around. For 2015 we want to expand the class so all SRB’s are legal as well as kyoshos scorpion/beetle. A reminder that hotted up plastic cars are legal for this class so if you’ve got a fox with a few nice hop ups on it and want to take on Associated and Kyosho, give it a go!

Classic Buggy is back: Due to popular demand, classic class is back, this is for buggies released between 1992 and 1996. Both 2wd and 4wd will be run and the motor is the sport tuned part no. 53068. (supply your own motor) also all vintage eligible buggies can be run in this class so if you're torn between running your 870c or egress, run 1 in vintage and the other in classic

We also want to mention that if you have multiple cars eligible for a class, please feel free to run them all during the day, if you have 6 x 2wd vintage cars setup, run a different one each race!

Entry fees will be $20 for the 1st class, $15 for the second and $10 per additional class after that, you can enter up to 3 classes per day. If you bring your kids (16 and under), they're just $10 per class

The BBQ will be running for lunch as per usual and cold drinks will be available all day

Drivers meeting 730am

******Racing will START at 8am SHARP on BOTH days******



The events to be held on Saturday are:
• 2wd Vintage Stock
• 2wd Vintage Open
• Stadium Truck
• 2wd Classic Sport tuned
• 2wd Purist Stock
• Plastic fantastic


The events to be held on Sunday are:
• 4wd Stock Vintage
• 4wd Open Vintage
• 4wd Classic Sport Tuned
• 4wd Misfits
• Hotshot

Categories for Vintage racing are:
• VINTAGE Buggy: Cut off date December 31, 1991. 2wd and 4wd classes - open and stock
• Classic Buggy: Buggies release between 1992 and 1996 - Sport tuned motor only part number 53068 (supply your own)
• Stadium Truck: Cut off date December 31, 1996. Brushless 13.5 turn with Zero degree timing stock spec esc (Blinky mode) or 19t brushed or greater
• PLASTIC Fantastic: Cut off date December 31, 1988. Stock motor

Category motor basics:
• STOCK – RS540 Johnson 540 grey endbell handout motor can be bought from club or motors from the 2014 festival may be re-used
• OPEN – any motor - brushed or brushless.

Category Batteries:
• Hard case 2s Li-Po 7.4 v nominal voltage maximum.
• Sub-C cells. 7.2 v nominal voltage maximum


Class specific guidelines:

Eligible Truck entries:

Truck class cut-off is nominated as end of 1996 for vintage classification.



Eligible cars for the HOTSHOT Class are:
• Hot Shot
• Boomerang
• Super Shot
• Big Wig
• Hot Shot II
• Super Sabre

The eligible buggies for the Hot Shot class are limited to the above mentioned buggies only. The motor for this class is the Johnson 540 handout motor. (Same as the stock class). The aim for this class it that someone could buy a re-release kit and go racing merely by finding the right pinion (17 tooth maximum) and modern tyres so the cars should remain as stock as possible, standard cva shocks must be used, all internal gearbox components must be standard . Interchanging of parts between these cars is fine. ALL cars must retain a strong resemblance to the original buggy where possible (period correct aftermarket bodies are acceptable). Tyres and wheels are open.

Eligible cars for Plastic Fantastic Class:

Any car that was released with fixed camber front and rear up to the end of 1988. Solid axle buggies like the Hornet and Grasshopper are also included in the class. Basically this class is for entry level buggies. Springs can be changed, but the car must retain original shocks. All internal gearbox components must be factory standard and the maximum pinion allowable is the largest pinion indicated in the manual, no dremelling of the gearbox to shove bigger pinions in. No other modifications or option parts are allowed. Buggies that have been modified to have adjustable camber should be entered in the 2wd purist class. The motor for this class is the Johnson RS540 handout motor. (Same as the stock class).Tyres and wheels are open

Eligible cars for 2wd Purist Class:

This class harks back to the classic battle of the 1987 worlds. Kyosho had brought out the Ultima with a pledge that it would beat Associated’s all-conquering RC10 and win the Worlds that year (which it did). Eligible cars include RC10 Gold pan (short arm/6 gear-no mods or hop ups – rere allowed), original “ladder chassis” Kyosho Ultima (no mods or hop ups), plastic fantastic cars (period option parts allowed) and the SRB series, plus the kyosho beetle/Tomahawk. All cars must run on original tyres and the handout Johnson RS540 is the motor for this class

Eligible cars for 4wd Misfits Class:


All buggies with a proper pipe frame body such as Mugen Bulldog and Hirobo Zerda, any chain driven 4wd buggy that fits in the rules for vintage such as Kyosho Rocky, any buggy from the Tamiya Thundershot series and most other “entry level” or older 4wds. Tyres are open and motors are the handout stock 540 motor. As with each year a vote will be taken from the drivers at the drivers meeting to determine if the short or long track will be used


GENERAL GUIDELINES FOR VINTAGE:

The main aim of these events is to have fun obviously, but a part of that fun is feeling like everyone is competing in the same spirit of the event. With that in mind, the cut off is there for a reason and the concept is pretty simple regarding modifications. If the modification involves changing the geometry of the car ie 1992 shock towers give a better/different geometry to the 1991 ones, then they shouldn’t be on the car. However, if it’s the case that the upgrade is purely a reliability one ie using a 92 slipper on a 91 car to protect the drive train or stronger belts, then it is deemed ok, but don’t replace the whole transmission with a unit from a later model in the name of reliability. If the item is both stronger and changes geometry it’s not allowed

Please look at the attached documents for a list of what cars fit into what category.

Unless specific class requirements state otherwise, the fitting of later model shocks, wheels and tyres and other small parts are acceptable – as sometimes they are simply impossible to find and/or maintain. We need to keep the cost of racing a vintage buggy reasonable, but fitting version 2 associated big bores on your car isn’t in the spirit of the rules

DRIVING STANDARDS AND ETIQUETTE:

We understand that a lot of vintage enthusiasts aren’t well seasoned racers, which is why it’s great to get a chance to get everyone out on the track with fellow minded people who all have a respect for these old machines. The driving standards have been excellent over the last couple of years, with a lot of respect being show on track for these rare cars whilst still maintaining high level competitive racing :
• NO SWEARING AT THE MARSHALS – they didn’t crash your car – you did!! It’s ok to talk loudly to attract their attention (they are probably fixated on the cool vintage buggies) – but don’t swear or be aggressive towards them. Remember – you are a marshal too – or will be!!
• If a faster car is coming up to lap you – just move slightly off line - or let them know that you are letting them through. This avoids damage to our precious vintage buggies and allows you, as the slower driver, to learn the lines of the faster driver. Crashing, and taking both of you out, only slows the both of you down…..easier to just be courteous.
• Be ready for your race, the sooner you are ready – the sooner we can start – giving more free time for everyone! We understand that having a chat about the good old days is fun, but we really want to make sure that everyone gets enough racing in. If you intend on entering the maximum 3 classes per day please plan ahead so you have your cars ready and down at the track at the beginning of the round so you can race then marshal and then grab your car ready to race again. We’ve found we lose a lot of time with people having to run back to their tables to grab the next car etc.
• Please don’t be aggressive with your driving or other competitors. We all understand the value of the cars we’ll be running dangerous moves are not worth it.

We will be having approximately 4 minutes between each race – as there are lots of us running multiple classes

MVP - On Sunday afternoon we will present the trophy for MVP (Most Vintage Pride). This will be an entirely subjective award which will come down to biggest effort for the weekend so it will encompass thing such as (but not limited to) display vehicles/arrangement, attire, attitude, competing in the spirit of the event, tallest stories about the good old days, rarity of vehicles raced etc. Being No.1 on the track won't make you the MVP. Being No.1 in the pits will! Wiggy took it out in 2013, Stephen James scored it in 2014. Who will be our MVP in 2015 ?


******PLEASE NOTE: IF we have less than 5 entries for any given class 4 weeks before the event, we will have to cancel that class*******


More details on the specific timings of races and their finer details will come in following posts.

ELECTRONIC on-line entries are open now!! click this link http://www.alycat.com/oed.php

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Old 06-15-2015, 02:06 AM   #2
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Woohoo bring it on! In the middle of doing a rebuild on the RC10 now.
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So re-re tamiya cars are allowed?
All my real cars are retired, too much sentimental value in them now. Couldn't stand breaking one, have had them way too long.

And being so close to the off road state titles I could only attend one day. Which would be the pick of the days?

I'd love to finally come along and re-live my childhood and bring along whatever cars I can fit in my car.
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Hi Brad. Yes, rereleases of cars from back in the day are gladly welcomed at these meetings.
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So re-re tamiya cars are allowed?
All my real cars are retired, too much sentimental value in them now. Couldn't stand breaking one, have had them way too long.

And being so close to the off road state titles I could only attend one day. Which would be the pick of the days?

I'd love to finally come along and re-live my childhood and bring along whatever cars I can fit in my car.
Both days are pretty awesome, but 2wd would be the bigger day with more entries and some pretty tight but clean and friendly racing. Plus it s also the first day of an event that has been anticipated for some time. All the buggies get lined up for a photo shoot as well.

Best weekend of the race calendar IMO.
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So re-re tamiya cars are allowed?
All my real cars are retired, too much sentimental value in them now. Couldn't stand breaking one, have had them way too long.

And being so close to the off road state titles I could only attend one day. Which would be the pick of the days?

I'd love to finally come along and re-live my childhood and bring along whatever cars I can fit in my car.
See if you can round up a few locals to come as well Brad. The more the merrier.....
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So re-re tamiya cars are allowed?
All my real cars are retired, too much sentimental value in them now. Couldn't stand breaking one, have had them way too long.

And being so close to the off road state titles I could only attend one day. Which would be the pick of the days?

I'd love to finally come along and re-live my childhood and bring along whatever cars I can fit in my car.
Yep re re Tamiyas are allowed.
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Sounds good, will definitely come, and bring whatever fits up with me. I'll bring at least another 7-8 hopefully more cars plus whatever I decide on racing that day.
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Hi Mikey, since the classic buggy class is back, is the TF Evo still eligible for vintage?
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Hi Mikey, since the classic buggy class is back, is the TF Evo still eligible for vintage?
Ahh Mr Terry Chang! how are you mate? whats your plans for this years event?

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Decided to get rebuilding the RC10 Graphite Team Car. Time for some up grades to enable use of modern front tires, lipos and modern electronics.

No more heavy batteries for this old girl!

The question is Open or 540? The Worlds car will be running Classic sport tuned. What to do.....
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Ahh Mr Terry Chang! how are you mate? whats your plans for this years event?

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Unfortunately Real Life has taken precedence over the last few months, but I'm hoping to get a Dyna Storm and maybe (non Evo) Top Force rebuilt and ready in time. I could do with some help tuning the DS as I've never raced a 2WD buggy before.

Just wondering if anyone in Sydney has a used/bashed Top Force body (just the body, I've got the undertray) they don't want any more?
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Can we re-use enduro handout motors in purist class? Hopefully get to run my RC10 this year.
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