AOC ROUND 2 - JUNE 19-21 HOBBY HABIT ADELAIDE, AUSTRALIA - PRESENTED BY SCOTTY ERNST
04-13-2015, 05:13 AM
#47
If you go the Pit Shimitzu path, then you probably need to mandate a combo out of the 57X series (sometimes referred to as "104 size"). The 54X series are smaller diameter and don't find all front ends.
Most, but not all, F1 chassis use the same size rear hex - I think the FGX is one of the odd ones out, so also need to consider that some entrants need different rims for the rear (the Rides do have that option).
I'm not fussed either way, as long as the chosen combo is driveable. For example, if you were running at the Castle Hill track in Winter, I don't think anyone would even contemplate the Rides, but at the AOC two years ago, they were fab.
Phil.
04-13-2015, 05:39 AM
#48
Is there anyone who runs F1 regularly at the track? If the grip is ok, then the Rides aren't a bad option as far as control tyres go.
If you go the Pit Shimitzu path, then you probably need to mandate a combo out of the 57X series (sometimes referred to as "104 size"). The 54X series are smaller diameter and don't find all front ends.
Most, but not all, F1 chassis use the same size rear hex - I think the FGX is one of the odd ones out, so also need to consider that some entrants need different rims for the rear (the Rides do have that option).
I'm not fussed either way, as long as the chosen combo is driveable. For example, if you were running at the Castle Hill track in Winter, I don't think anyone would even contemplate the Rides, but at the AOC two years ago, they were fab.
Phil.
If you go the Pit Shimitzu path, then you probably need to mandate a combo out of the 57X series (sometimes referred to as "104 size"). The 54X series are smaller diameter and don't find all front ends.
Most, but not all, F1 chassis use the same size rear hex - I think the FGX is one of the odd ones out, so also need to consider that some entrants need different rims for the rear (the Rides do have that option).
I'm not fussed either way, as long as the chosen combo is driveable. For example, if you were running at the Castle Hill track in Winter, I don't think anyone would even contemplate the Rides, but at the AOC two years ago, they were fab.
Phil.
Cheers Rich Groncki
04-13-2015, 05:59 AM
#49
Everyone that runs F1 at Hobby Habit uses Pit Shimitzu softs front and rear on F103 rims. I run the TRF101W so I cannot use the Rides anyway. This is the problem with a control tyre in F1, all cars are not the same. I would suggest that we run open rubber tyre,
Cheers Rich Groncki
Cheers Rich Groncki
Phil.
04-13-2015, 06:36 AM
#50
I have never used the Rides, but I am assuming that they can only be mounted on F104 wheels (as opposed to F103 wheels). The TRF101W is basically an F104 with a modern F103 front end, which means that the geometry is designed for F103 wheels. I have just fit a set of F104 wheels to confirm. The offsets are such that the front track is about 15mm larger than the rear which looks stupid
and probably wouldnt handle all that well. There is also a problem getting the front ride height correct with the larger diameter F104 wheels - I guess I could probably pack the underside of the wishbones with spacers, but again, not a great solution.Cheers Rich
04-13-2015, 02:06 PM
#52
Just to interject.... That configuration (103 front end, with ride 104 offsets) is exactly how I ran my f1 at TITC in 2012, and AOC in 2013... And both events, it was faster that way than with a 104 front end. So don't be too quick to dismiss.
Personally, control tyres for F1 are a must. It's a fun class after all, and the last thing it needs is for people to be worrying about if they have the right tyres, especially if travelling interstate.
And straight up the rides are the best option. Namely as they actually have markings on so they can be identified, unlike the shimizus. They probably won't work as well as the shimizus, but so what, it's the same for everyone.
Personally, control tyres for F1 are a must. It's a fun class after all, and the last thing it needs is for people to be worrying about if they have the right tyres, especially if travelling interstate.
And straight up the rides are the best option. Namely as they actually have markings on so they can be identified, unlike the shimizus. They probably won't work as well as the shimizus, but so what, it's the same for everyone.
Last edited by TryHard; 04-13-2015 at 04:32 PM.
04-13-2015, 03:36 PM
#54
On a grippy track there is no reason why the ride R1's with some tire warmers and goop wont work, If everyone is on the same tire then it shouldn't be an issue if they are 0.5 seconds slower then shimizu's. The whole wide v's narrow front end is a mute point. Just stick with the R1's....
04-14-2015, 01:13 AM
#55
04-14-2015, 09:35 PM
#57
With Solaris being an event sponsor, we are in the process of sorting out controlled F1 tires with them.
Can anyone please verify what combination they like or have had experience with? Preferably from Adelaide?
We will organise for some tires to be sent out ASAP to be tested.
Cheers
Nathan
Can anyone please verify what combination they like or have had experience with? Preferably from Adelaide?
We will organise for some tires to be sent out ASAP to be tested.
Cheers
Nathan
04-17-2015, 03:05 PM
#60
Its closer then you think,lets start to see entries coming in,all you Hobby Habit runners,Little Hampton runners,its a Top class event,it only comes around once a year,and its indoors,not problems with rain washing out the event.
Cya Scott
Cya Scott
